A couple of quick amendments to the new Afghan/Baloch namelists

[Lysistrata]

While I was over the moon to see they both finally got names of their own, none of the names were linked, and they both still use Kurdish patronyms. I'm not sure what kind of patronyms Balochs should use, but I've fixed the ones for Afghans at least:

afghan = { # a.k.a. Pashtun
        graphical_cultures = { persiangfx } #arabicgfx
        secondary_event_pictures = bedouin_arabic

        color = { 0.6 0.6 0.1 }

       male_names = {
            Aaban Aabdar Aalem Aakrama Aamir Aaqel Aarash Aarif Aarash Aazar Abas_Abbas Abdiesus Abed Abu-zar Afzal Adel
            Afrooz Afsar_Afshar Afshin Ajmal Akbar_Akbar Akhtar Akram Alaudin Akbarkhan Almeida Amardad Amooz
            Anoushiravan_Anushirvan Anwaaraddin Ariabood Armeen Aryo Arzhang Asadi Ashtak Azfaar Azoom Azyan Azzami Azzat
            Baddar Badeed Badih Badilayn Badrawi Baghish Bahiri Bahirun Bahlul Bahnam Dadvar Faireh Farjaad Farzaad_Farzad
            Futtehkhan Gulraiz Gulrez Gulru Isfandiyar_Esfandiar Jaah Jabroot Jammas Jansher Jehanzaib Kardaar Lodhi Maiwand
            Mateen Mehrang Mirwais Mohammadi_Muhammad Moinkhan Mukhtar Mursalin Musa_Moses Naseefa Nawaskhan Nouman Painda
            Parwaiz_Parviz Pazir Poya Qammar Rayi Shahmeer Shahou Shahpar Shahpur_Shapur Shahu Shehzad Soban Tabish Tabsheer
            Taimur Tajj Tashfeen Wamiq Yar Yesal Zadfar Zakariya_Zachary Zarak Zartash_Zartosht
        }

        female_names = {
            Aabroo Abrisham Afhak Afri Afshaneh Afsoon Anousheh Arezo Armineh Asal Asmaan Azyan Benesh Berezira Chaghama Damsa
            Darsameen Esin Farahnoush Farkhondeh Farzaneh Ferhana Firouzeh Ghamzeh_Ghamze Gulnoor Gulpari Gulrang Hajira Hamdiya
            Hesther Hooriyah Hunoon Illiyeen Imama Kaameh Kaamisha Kaamnoosh Kaasheen Kashm Khudeeja Kinaaz Kushaaneh Larmina
            Mahvash Mehrbano Mehrvash Mojdeh Morsal Moska Nageenah Naghma Nahal Nazy Paksima Parigul Pariwish Permaz Perveen_Parvin
            Ramineh Samaneh Shabahang Shabana Shadleen Shagufta Shahernaz Shaherzad Shahzadi Shandana Shararah Sharjeela Shokouh
            Sumbul Taara Tabaan Tasneem Veeda Yalqoot Yamna Yashfa Yasmoon_Yasmin Zaafirah Zahab Zamaair Zarafshan Zargul Zarmisha
            Zarnish Zartasha Zeeana Zuha 
        }
    
        dynasty_title_names = yes
        founder_named_dynasties = yes

        male_patronym = "zai"
        female_patronym = "lur"
        prefix = no

        modifier = default_culture_modifier
    }
 
    baloch = {
        graphical_cultures = { persiangfx } #arabicgfx
        secondary_event_pictures = bedouin_arabic

        color = { 0.4 0.4 0.05 }

       male_names = {
            Aadam_Adam Aadeynag Aali_Ali Aalmaas Adham Allayaar Armaan Baahout Baalaach Baaraan Baarag Bahraam_Bahram Ban'dag Bashshaam
            Behrouz Beh'zaad Bibagr_Babak Bohaador Buhaa'dor Bouheyr Braanz Chaakar Chaarshambeh Cheerag Delaa'waar Deedag Deleyr
            Del'shaad Didag Doudaa Dousteyn Gaazi Gam'shaad_Jamshid Gazzi Gishshar Gwahraam Haameyn Ham'bal Hammal Hayaat Haybat Horsond
            Jaafar Jalab Jehaangir_Jahangir Jiyand Joma Kamaal Kambar Mazaar Mallouk Mayaar Meer'zaad Meraan Meereen Mirbal Mirdoust
            Mirzaad Oumaan Omeyd Rahmat Rayhaan Rameen Roushen Rozhn Sabzal Sayaad Shaadaan Shaadmaan Shah'sawaar Shah'zaad Shah'daad
            Shahdoust Shahmir Shanbeh Shakkal Shamsheyr Sharif Sekandar_Alexander Sheyrdel Soubaan Zangi
        }

        female_names = {
            Aarezou Ambar Bahtaawar Bramsh Darmaan Dranna Dorbibi Dorhaatun Dornaaz Emaan Eymen Ezzat Ganjhaatun Gawhar Golandaam Golbaanu
            Golhaatun Golmalek Golpari Graannaaz Haani Haatun Jannat Mah'deym Mah'taab_Mahtab Maahaan Maahaatun Maahekaan Maaheyn Mahbaanu
            Mahbibi Mahganj Mahgol Mahjabin Mahlika_Malika Mahnaaz Mahnur Mahrang Mahtaap Mehrnaz Mehrnehal Mehrawar Mehrandaam Mehlab
            Mor'waared Naazbibi Naazhaatun Naazmalek Nogl Parigol Parinaaz Raheema Rahemal Saccha Sadaaf Sadaf Samul Sanji Seemuk Shaari
            Shali Sharhaatun Shemshok Shereen_Shirin Sheshalo Sugra Suha Suhenda Waahag Zaaferaan Zarhaatun Zaitun Zaytun Zinat Zomorred
        }
    
        dynasty_title_names = yes
        founder_named_dynasties = yes

        male_patronym = "kurê "
        female_patronym = "kiçê "
        prefix = yes

        modifier = default_culture_modifier
    }

 

[klopkr]

Thanks for doing this!

 

[Kljunas]

Nice job. Do you know if Parwaiz is the equivalent of Parviz perhaps? And Sayaad of Sayyid?

 

[Lysistrata]

Nice job. Do you know if Parwaiz is the equivalent of Parviz perhaps? And Sayaad of Sayyid?

I'm not sure, I honestly just went by what sounded like it couldn't be anything else, so maybe. Parwaiz -> Parviz didn't occur to me, but Sayyid doesn't have any links anyway so I guess that'd be something for Paradox to consider.

Thanks for doing this!

No problem! I'd just fixed it for myself and thought I might as well share it.

 

[Mouthwash]

Have the Jewish names ever been fixed? They were a complete farce last I saw.

 

[Lysistrata]

Honestly? I have no idea; I'm not so familiar with Hebrew.

 

[Psychobeast]

I'm not sure what kind of patronyms Balochs should use

I don't know, which female patronym they use, but male patronym is postfix "ani", as I know.

 

[Mouthwash]

Honestly? I have no idea; I'm not so familiar with Hebrew.

They didn't bother to take some of them from Hebrew - instead they literally made up a bunch of Hebrew-sounding words. The laziness is impressive.

 

[Snow Crystal]

I'll keep an eye on this thread, so if people see more issues with the Afghan and Balochi namelists, I can have it added to the game.

 

[Torngasuk]

Have the Jewish names ever been fixed? They were a complete farce last I saw.

Speaking of which, I've noticed before that the Khazars have a few distinctly Hebrew names like Hezekiah and Manasseh rolled into their cultural naming, regardless of their actual religion.

 

[Mouthwash]

Okay, I cranked out an alternate Jewish namelist. Also removed Hebrew names for Khazars.

israelite = {
    graphical_cultures = { easterngfx }

    ashkenazi = {
        graphical_cultures = { byzantinegfx }
        color = { 0.6 0.3 0.6 }

        male_names = {
            Adam Aharon_Aaron Akiva Amram Amos Ariel Aryeh Asher Avner Avraham_Abraham Azariah Baruch
            Binyamin_Benjamin Boaz Chagai Chananel Chananya Chanoch Chaim Chisdai Chizkiyahu_Hezekiah Chofni Chushiel
            Dan Daniel_Daniel Dovid_David Ehud Eitan_Ethan Elazar Elisha Eliyahu Elchanan Eldad Eliezer Elyakim Emanuel_Immanuel Ephraim Ezra
            Gamliel Gavriel_Gabriel Gedaliah Gershom Gershon Gideon Hillel Hiyya Kafnai Levi Machir Manoach Matityahu_Matthew Meir Menachem
            Menashe Mishael Mordechai Moshe_Moses Nachshon Nachman Naftali Natan Nathaniel Nechemiah Nissim Noach_Noah Ovadiah Pinchas Rafael
            Reuven_Reuben Rivai Saadiah Shabtai Shaoul_Saul Shemariah Sherira Shimon_Simon Shimshon_Samson Simcha Shlomo_Solomon Shmuel_Samuel
            Tzadok Uriel Yaakov_Jacob Yechezkel_Ezekiel Yechiel Yehudah_Judah Yehoshua_Joshua Yerachmiel Yeshayahu_Isaiah Yirmiyahu_Jeremiah Yisrael_Israel
            Yitzchak_Isaac Yochanan_John Yoel_Joel Yonah_Jonah Yonatan_Jonathan Yosef_Joseph Zechariah Ze'ev
        }
        female_names = {
            Adinah Ariela_Ariella Avigail_Abigail Ayala Batsheva Batya Bilhah Bina Bracha Chana Chavah Chaya Daniela_Daniella Dvorah_Deborah Dinah Elisheva_Elizabeth Emunah Esther_Esther
            Gavriela_Gabriella Gila Hadassah Ilana Leah Mashe Menuchah Michal Miriam_Mary Netanya Nechama Ofrah Ora Peninah Rachel_Rachel Rafaela_Raffaella
            Rut_Ruth Rivkah_Rebecca Sara_Sarah Sharon Shira Shoshana_Susanna Shulamit Tamar Tehilah Tikvah Tirzah Zipporah Yael Yafa Yiska_Jessica Yehudit_Judith
            Yocheved Yoninah Zahava
        }
       dukes_called_kings = yes
        from_dynasty_prefix = "of "
        male_patronym = "ben "
        female_patronym = "bas "
        prefix = yes

        modifier = default_culture_modifier
    }
    sephardi = {
        graphical_cultures = { byzantinegfx }
        color = { 0.7 0.2 0.7 }

        male_names = {
            Adam Aharon_Aaron Akiva Amram Amos Ariel Aryeh Asher Avner Avraham_Abraham Azariah Baruch
            Binyamin_Benjamin Boaz Chagai Chananel Chananya Chanoch Chaim Chisdai Chizkiyahu_Hezekiah Chofni Chushiel
            Dan Daniel_Daniel Dovid_David Ehud Eitan_Ethan Elazar Elisha Eliyahu Elchanan Eldad Eliezer Elyakim Emanuel_Immanuel Ephraim Ezra
            Gamliel Gavriel_Gabriel Gedaliah Gershom Gershon Gideon Hillel Hiyya Kafnai Levi Machir Manoach Matityahu_Matthew Meir Menachem
            Menashe Mishael Mordechai Moshe_Moses Nachshon Nachman Naftali Natan Nathaniel Nechemiah Nissim Noach_Noah Ovadiah Pinchas Rafael
            Reuven_Reuben Rivai Saadiah Shabtai Shaoul_Saul Shemariah Sherira Shimon_Simon Shimshon_Samson Simcha Shlomo_Solomon Shmuel_Samuel
            Tzadok Uriel Yaakov_Jacob Yechezkel_Ezekiel Yechiel Yehudah_Judah Yehoshua_Joshua Yerachmiel Yeshayahu_Isaiah Yirmiyahu_Jeremiah Yisrael_Israel
            Yitzchak_Isaac Yochanan_John Yoel_Joel Yonah_Jonah Yonatan_Jonathan Yosef_Joseph Zechariah Ze'ev
        }
        female_names = {
            Adinah Ariela_Ariella Avigail_Abigail Ayala Batsheva Batya Bilhah Bina Bracha Chana Chavah Chaya Daniela_Daniella Dvorah_Deborah Dinah Elisheva_Elizabeth Emunah Esther_Esther
            Gavriela_Gabriella Gila Hadassah Ilana Leah Mashe Menuchah Michal Miriam_Mary Netanya Nechama Ofrah Ora Peninah Rachel_Rachel Rafaela_Raffaella
            Rut_Ruth Rivkah_Rebecca Sara_Sarah Sharon Shira Shoshana_Susanna Shulamit Tamar Tehilah Tikvah Tirzah Zipporah Yael Yafa Yiska_Jessica Yehudit_Judith
            Yocheved Yoninah Zahava
        }
       dukes_called_kings = yes
        from_dynasty_prefix = "of "
        male_patronym = "ben "
        female_patronym = "bat "
        prefix = yes

        modifier = default_culture_modifier
    }
}

khazar = { # Oghur Turkish
        graphical_cultures = { turkishgfx }
        secondary_event_pictures = bedouin_arabic
 
        color = { 0.7 0.45 0.1 }

        male_names = {
            Alp Araslan_Arslan Bagha Baghatur Bהlgiחi Barjik Barsbek Bastu Bashtwa Bihor Bצri Bugha Bulan Bulחan Busir Buzer ַat ַat'n ַorpan Ilik Iltהbהr Itakh Kamaj Karadakh Kayghalagh Khatir Khuterkin
            Kibar Kisa Kundaחiq Kundaח Mהnהr Mהnהs Mכnmarףt ײtemis Papaחyz Samsam Sartהח Simsam Tהbהr Tabghaח Tarkhan Tarmaח Tuzniq Vakrim Yabghu Yavantey Yenחepi Yerneslu Yeחtirek Yilig
 
        }
        female_names = {
            ַiחהk_ַiחek ַeחeppi ַeחki ַeחtilet ַilen ַiltanesi ײzgul ײzlem Akgul Asli Ayasun Ayten Bozחin Dilek Esin Gulחiחהk_Gulחiחek Gulay Gunduz Gundes Gunes Ikalay Ilkay Ipek Ipekel Irge
            Karacik Kהtyarikka Kכlnissa Kכlyamal Khatun Lהrkka Lyukha Mala Maturkka Mutlu Naחa Parsbit Patiyer Paykכlti Peksen Puyantay Samur Sarantay Sarה Sarica Sarikel
            Sati Savaחka Savkכlti Savtilek Savilay_Sevilay Savintik_Sevindik Shurkka Sibel Sirin Sirma Songul Tהhtani Tekחe Tura Umay Usunbike Yasar Yeldem Yildiz Yartilek
        }
 
        founder_named_dynasties = yes

        allow_looting = yes

        modifier = default_culture_modifier
    }

It's interesting to note that Paradox copy-pasted most of Jewish male names and all of the female names from here. Not only do they use the incoherent sounding local names (Doltza?), all of which are based upon single recorded instances, they left out tons of basic Hebrew names like Pinchas, Miriam, Leah, etc. Apparently SoA didn't have the budget for more than one Google search.

 

[Kljunas]

Why would you remove these names from the Khazar list? They're historical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezekiah_(Khazar) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manasseh_I ...

And they are restricted to Jewish characters already.

If you're actually seeing non-Jewish Khazars named Hezekiah then this is a bug, not an issue with the name list.