A Catholic Iraq thats a vassal of Burgundy.

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Does anyone have any idea how this happened? This is an ironman save just so you know...
 
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See the province history of the Iraqi provinces. It should show you when they were occupied and by whom. Vassal probably switched hands during a war.
 
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Well a player could have gained Iraq as a vassal and then been forced them to switch religion. Maybe Iraq got pulled into a Hungary-Ottoman war and ended up as Hungary's vassal. I don't know if the AI ever makes use of the vassal options, though.
 

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Well a player could have gained Iraq as a vassal and then been forced them to switch religion. Maybe Iraq got pulled into a Hungary-Ottoman war and ended up as Hungary's vassal. I don't know if the AI ever makes use of the vassal options, though.
AI does use the vassal option to force religion
 
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The rest of the world is fairly normal, nothing special, just Iraq.

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Iraq is the only oddity and it seems that Burgundy occupied it during a war against the Ottomans and vassalized Iraq during the war
 

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I remember playing a Muslim Indian state and converting to Hindu. I got an event encouraging me to switch back with very positive benefits. They should probably look at that event and disable it for nations that are vassals or that have been force converted.

My guess is that event does not apply in Iraq.
 
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View attachment 166621The rest of the world is fairly normal, nothing special, just Iraq.
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Iraq is the only oddity and it seems that Burgundy occupied it during a war against the Ottomans and vassalized Iraq during the war

Iraq is the only oddity to you when you in 1625 so before the historical 30years war you have a catholic Morocco, a catholic Scandinavia so that no protestant lion of the north enters the fray in Germany a Sunni Wallachia (Vlad Dracul would turn in his grave if saw that) and a catholic baltic lacking the protestant Prussia formed by the Teutonic Orders last Grand Master?
 
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We should ping a member of the QA team to see this is WAD or not. @ForzaA
It seems rather out of place, and I suspect some weird shenanigans caused this.. But I honestly can't say for sure whether there's a *bug* a play, or just a very particular set of game events causing this.
 
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Couldn't it just be that Burgundy somehow got warleader against Ottomans, Iraq was a vassal of the Ottomans, and Burgundy thought it would be nice to have Iraq? And then enforced religion?
 
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Iraq is the only oddity to you when you in 1625 so before the historical 30years war you have a catholic Morocco, a catholic Scandinavia so that no protestant lion of the north enters the fray in Germany a Sunni Wallachia (Vlad Dracul would turn in his grave if saw that) and a catholic baltic lacking the protestant Prussia formed by the Teutonic Orders last Grand Master?
Well aside from that, pretty normal.
 

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Iraq is the only oddity to you when you in 1625 so before the historical 30years war you have a catholic Morocco, a catholic Scandinavia so that no protestant lion of the north enters the fray in Germany a Sunni Wallachia (Vlad Dracul would turn in his grave if saw that) and a catholic baltic lacking the protestant Prussia formed by the Teutonic Orders last Grand Master?
Catholic Marocco. Happens a lot
Catholic Scandinavia. One war at the wrong time an none of them can become protestant.
Sunni Wallachia. Recently happens ALL THE TIME. I hope with 1.16 they changed something such that the AI stops religion forcing their vassals so much. Really does not make much sense. Same for converting marches into vassals with no reason...
Catholic baltic. also standard...
 
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Forcing religion doesn't make sense? I do it all the time. Gets you a total of +35 to relationship score, and even if the AI only converts one or two provinces before I diplo-annex them that's one or two I don't have to work on.
 
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Well, In my French game I saw the Commonwealth force vassalizing Tlemcen (it was late game, and Tlemcen was called to the defense of the Ottomans), which owned its former territories and some of Tunis. After some years Commonwealth also enforced religion but the game finished anyway.
 

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Forcing religion doesn't make sense? I do it all the time. Gets you a total of +35 to relationship score, and even if the AI only converts one or two provinces before I diplo-annex them that's one or two I don't have to work on.
Forcing heathens mean +100% LD. Thats quite a lot. But independent of that, we are talking about the Ottomans. They have +3 heathen tolerance and usually take Humanist as first Idea group so they do not care whether the provinces will be Orthodox or Sunni once they get them, because either will be at a full +3 tolerance. Furthermore, from a historical view it does not make sense that they would force their balkan vassals to convert to sunni...
 
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Forcing heathens mean +100% LD. Thats quite a lot. But independent of that, we are talking about the Ottomans. They have +3 heathen tolerance and usually take Humanist as first Idea group so they do not care whether the provinces will be Orthodox or Sunni once they get them, because either will be at a full +3 tolerance. Furthermore, from a historical view it does not make sense that they would force their balkan vassals to convert to sunni...

Well it makes sense why they would, but not that they're able to at all ;)
 
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