This is entirely different from any of the HOIs. Everyone will be noobs. I wouldn't worry. The game works nothing like 2 or 3.
A call to all axis generals. Preparations for the upcoming release and war
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Yeah, sadly no amount of WWW videos or Dev Diaries will fully prepare us. It's all just theory, until D-Day 
I played a little bit of HoI II and HoI III. I'm just not very good at it.
I don't mind sharing the USSR though.
I see I've already been committed.
Might tweak the plan a bit.
I like things...unexpected!
Though I always end up at war with the poor Japanese after I run-out of opponents. And with 80 nukes and Tibet already gone. China and Japan get to play Fallout for real.
Sorry, Bros. Ein Reich.
Might tweak the plan a bit.
I like things...unexpected!
Though I always end up at war with the poor Japanese after I run-out of opponents. And with 80 nukes and Tibet already gone. China and Japan get to play Fallout for real.
Sorry, Bros. Ein Reich.
Markath Avogoth and The Lord Drake welcome!
I am very pleased that we have found some people to represent the red menace!
Maybe it wil be more than target practice on the east front now
I will also personnaly see to it that the Regia Aeronautica will inscribe your names on every bomb they wil drop on your land and people!
Signed,
Admiral Arturo Riccardi
(seriously though: you are very welcome here! It's great to have more people along for the ride!)
I am very pleased that we have found some people to represent the red menace!
Maybe it wil be more than target practice on the east front now
I will also personnaly see to it that the Regia Aeronautica will inscribe your names on every bomb they wil drop on your land and people!
Signed,
Admiral Arturo Riccardi
(seriously though: you are very welcome here! It's great to have more people along for the ride!)
The problem is that on the day you'll all have taken sleeping pills and haven given strict orders not to be disturbed! So the allies will have half a day's start.Yeah, sadly no amount of WWW videos or Dev Diaries will fully prepare us. It's all just theory, until D-Day
Actually, I'll be on a strict caffeine and sugar diet, to ensure those dastardly Allies don't get the drop on me!The problem is that on the day you'll all have taken sleeping pills and haven given strict orders not to be disturbed! So the allies will have half a day's start.
This means we'll have to reevaluate our plans in secret, since its all here in one convenient place for them to read ahaha.Markath Avogoth and The Lord Drake welcome!
I am very pleased that we have found some people to represent the red menace!
Maybe it wil be more than target practice on the east front now
I will also personnaly see to it that the Regia Aeronautica will inscribe your names on every bomb they wil drop on your land and people!
Signed,
Admiral Arturo Riccardi
(seriously though: you are very welcome here! It's great to have more people along for the ride!)
The Führer welcomes the challenge of a duo operative Soviet Union, if you're all still around by the end of the waiting period
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Too bad we can't create subthreads inside this thread so we could have a commie, allied and this axis thread in one nice location :s
I already have a genius plan to bring France to its knees hehehe
but discussing her now with the reds listening in might be a very bad tactical decision (maybe make a private conversation to discuss some tactics later down the line?)
for the rest I welcome the reds and everyone is welcome, I'm a mere brigadier general (noob I mean) of the Belgian army.
but discussing her now with the reds listening in might be a very bad tactical decision (maybe make a private conversation to discuss some tactics later down the line?
)for the rest I welcome the reds and everyone is welcome, I'm a mere brigadier general (noob I mean) of the Belgian army.
Germany High Command has pressured me to create new divisional structures from scratch. In haste I prepared some basic blueprints, I thought it best to share with my fellow commanders before I mail them off for the Führer to review.
Standard Infantry - Nothing fancy, should prove to be a solid formation for the bulk of the Heer.
/Frontline/ Infantry x9
/Supports/ Artillery / Anti-Tank / Engineers / Recon / Signal Com.
Garrison Infantry - More emphasis on the defensive, quality over quantity. Is to be stationed in Ports and key Cities.
/Frontline/ Infantry x6
/Supports/ Anti-Air / Anti-Tank / Artillery / Engineers / Logistics Com.
Police Garrison - My predicted minimum requirement to keep pesky Partisans under the rug. Not meant for front-line action.
/Frontline/ Cavalry x4
/Supports/ Military Pol. / Logistics Com.
Afrika Corps - Open desert suits mobile warfare, and Light Tanks should prove more resilient to the weather than heavier models.
/Frontline/ Motorized x6 / Light T. x3
/Supports/ Anti-Tank / Artillery / Recon / Signal Com. / Maintenance Com.
Motorized Corps - An expensive, semi-elite formation. Will be deployed to assist in battles that could determine the outcome of the war.
/Frontline/ Motorized x6 / Medium T. x3
/Supports/ Rocket Art. / Engineers / Recon / Signal Com. / Maintenance Com.
Panzergrenadiers - Best of the best.
/Frontline/ Mechanized x6 / Heavy T. x3
/Supports/ Rocket Art. / Engineers / Recon / Signal Com. / Maintenance Com.
(Apologies for the potato formatting, it looked much better in the preview)
Standard Infantry - Nothing fancy, should prove to be a solid formation for the bulk of the Heer.
/Frontline/ Infantry x9
/Supports/ Artillery / Anti-Tank / Engineers / Recon / Signal Com.
Garrison Infantry - More emphasis on the defensive, quality over quantity. Is to be stationed in Ports and key Cities.
/Frontline/ Infantry x6
/Supports/ Anti-Air / Anti-Tank / Artillery / Engineers / Logistics Com.
Police Garrison - My predicted minimum requirement to keep pesky Partisans under the rug. Not meant for front-line action.
/Frontline/ Cavalry x4
/Supports/ Military Pol. / Logistics Com.
Afrika Corps - Open desert suits mobile warfare, and Light Tanks should prove more resilient to the weather than heavier models.
/Frontline/ Motorized x6 / Light T. x3
/Supports/ Anti-Tank / Artillery / Recon / Signal Com. / Maintenance Com.
Motorized Corps - An expensive, semi-elite formation. Will be deployed to assist in battles that could determine the outcome of the war.
/Frontline/ Motorized x6 / Medium T. x3
/Supports/ Rocket Art. / Engineers / Recon / Signal Com. / Maintenance Com.
Panzergrenadiers - Best of the best.
/Frontline/ Mechanized x6 / Heavy T. x3
/Supports/ Rocket Art. / Engineers / Recon / Signal Com. / Maintenance Com.
(Apologies for the potato formatting, it looked much better in the preview
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Looks good my dear colleague!
And it shows the Reichs focus on infantry.
I am still discussing the divisional structure with Il Duce. (He is Hell bent on a binary structure)
As i need to consider the lack of production for the military (as it all goes to the navy) and the lower manpower we have compared to the Reich, this is not an easy task.
When I have settled on a composition I will send a copy to you, of course, for review!
And it shows the Reichs focus on infantry.
I am still discussing the divisional structure with Il Duce. (He is Hell bent on a binary structure)
As i need to consider the lack of production for the military (as it all goes to the navy) and the lower manpower we have compared to the Reich, this is not an easy task.
When I have settled on a composition I will send a copy to you, of course, for review!
I eagerly await to see what you come up with Admiral. Though my expertise is nothing more or less than your own, I would be honored to give you my opinion
Germany believes integrating armored columns into her infantry formation will give the soldiers both better protection and offensive punch. I have yet to see the results of this theory however, but all in due time.
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My inteligence intercepted communication between axis menace and you can rest assured that glourious Empire of Great Britain with all its might will bring hell upon you on see, land and also in the air.
Plan of high command of Great Britain:
Top secret (aka somehow survive the odds)
So in case you would like to have allied opposition count with me
Plan of high command of Great Britain:
Top secret (aka somehow survive the odds)
So in case you would like to have allied opposition count with me
Before he left for Scotland Rudolf Hess made me pinkie swear not to tell the Führer about his visit. I decided to keep that promise, I mean, it's not like you're going to throw him in the tower or anything upon arrival right... RIGHT!?My inteligence intercepted communication between axis menace and you can rest assured that glourious Empire of Great Britain with all its might will bring hell upon you on see, land and also in the air.
Plan of high command of Great Britain:
Top secret (aka somehow survive the odds)
So in case you would like to have allied opposition count with me
(Welcome, and on that note I hope in the next 3 months enough of the game changes to warrant a complete overhaul of everything discussed, or else the Allies and Soviets are just going to hard counter everything with foresight ahaha. i'm not going to treat this like a non-Axis thread tho, its too much fun discussing strategy and what not, I don't even care if it all has to be scrapped when the day comes
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Its looking good I'm stillt hinking on what kind of doctrine + ground army structure I want... I mean I got low manpower and low industry hmpf! I suppose superior firepower combined with infantry / motorized + medium tanks have to do. But then they will deploy anti tanks... ill keep you updated on a strategy.
What's that? They will deploy Anti-Tanks? *scribbles on a a bit of paper* Just sign on the dotted line, your King Tigers should arrive in the mail between 4-10 business days
(I could be just thinking along the lines of HoI3 but in that Anti-Tank was only a necessity if you were facing a large armored enemy and you yourself had none. It's why I didn't put Anti-Tank in any of my motorized units aside from Afrika Corps, as the Medium/Heavy Tanks should counter other nations tanks just fine. This is of course unproven speculation.)
Gentlemen,
Despite the knowledge of Soviet and Capitalist spies being present i would like to present my thoughts on several divisional structures for the Regio Ecersito:
(Disclaimer: this WILL change as D-Day nears
The parts between { } are dependent on resources (oil and steel/tungsten etc) and factories available.
Though I have seen that in the focus tree for Italy I can dig for oil in Libya so that might make steel the limiting factor.)
Frontline Divisions
Standard
/Frontline/ 6x Infantry, 3x Artillery
/supports/ AT, Signal, Field hospital, engineers, Recon
Desert Cavalry
/Frontline/ 6x Cavalry, {3x Motorized}
/Support/ {Maintenance}, Recon, Logistics
{Armored
/Frontline/ 3x L.Tank 6x Motorized [to be upgraded to Mechanised] 1x L.SPAA 1x L. AT.Tank 1x L. SPART
/Support/ Logistics, Maintenance, Field hospital, Signal, Recon}
Marine Elite
/Frontline/ 9x Marines
/Support/ Fieldhospital, Signal, Recon, Art, Engineers
Mountain Elite
/Frontline/ 9x Mountain Infantry 3x Art
/Support/ Engineers, Fieldhospital, Recon, Signal, Logistics
Homefront Divisions
Garrison Reserve
/Frontline/ 6x Infantry
/Support/ Engineers, AA, AT, Art
Peacekeeping Reserve
/Frontline/ 4x Cav
/Support/ MP
The idea is to use teh standard infantry to assault strategic locations in afrika, the balkans and the middle East.
In the desert, I will use the desert cavalry to sweep around enemy lines, able to do so due to, hopefully, lesser supply requirements. By using so many Field hospitals I hope to limit the drain on my limited manpower.
The marines will be used to create beachheads from where I intend to carry on the fight with my standard frontline unit and then organize new landings with the Marines.
The mountain divisions will be the primary combatants in the balkans, turkey and the caucasus.
Should I be able to create Armored divisions these will be used as Iron fists to punch through Russian lines.
Though I doubt Italy will ever develop heavy or medium tanks.
Brigadier General, we should also call a conference on the division of Afrika as well as what your plans are for the military operations there.
Signed,
Admiral Arturo Riccardi
Edit: Adopted German advise for the Armored Division
(TL; DR RP and division builds!!!!!)
Despite the knowledge of Soviet and Capitalist spies being present i would like to present my thoughts on several divisional structures for the Regio Ecersito:
(Disclaimer: this WILL change as D-Day nears
The parts between { } are dependent on resources (oil and steel/tungsten etc) and factories available.
Though I have seen that in the focus tree for Italy I can dig for oil in Libya
so that might make steel the limiting factor.)Frontline Divisions
Standard
/Frontline/ 6x Infantry, 3x Artillery
/supports/ AT, Signal, Field hospital, engineers, Recon
Desert Cavalry
/Frontline/ 6x Cavalry, {3x Motorized}
/Support/ {Maintenance}, Recon, Logistics
{Armored
/Frontline/ 3x L.Tank 6x Motorized [to be upgraded to Mechanised] 1x L.SPAA 1x L. AT.Tank 1x L. SPART
/Support/ Logistics, Maintenance, Field hospital, Signal, Recon}
Marine Elite
/Frontline/ 9x Marines
/Support/ Fieldhospital, Signal, Recon, Art, Engineers
Mountain Elite
/Frontline/ 9x Mountain Infantry 3x Art
/Support/ Engineers, Fieldhospital, Recon, Signal, Logistics
Homefront Divisions
Garrison Reserve
/Frontline/ 6x Infantry
/Support/ Engineers, AA, AT, Art
Peacekeeping Reserve
/Frontline/ 4x Cav
/Support/ MP
The idea is to use teh standard infantry to assault strategic locations in afrika, the balkans and the middle East.
In the desert, I will use the desert cavalry to sweep around enemy lines, able to do so due to, hopefully, lesser supply requirements. By using so many Field hospitals I hope to limit the drain on my limited manpower.
The marines will be used to create beachheads from where I intend to carry on the fight with my standard frontline unit and then organize new landings with the Marines.
The mountain divisions will be the primary combatants in the balkans, turkey and the caucasus.
Should I be able to create Armored divisions these will be used as Iron fists to punch through Russian lines.
Though I doubt Italy will ever develop heavy or medium tanks.
Brigadier General, we should also call a conference on the division of Afrika as well as what your plans are for the military operations there.
Signed,
Admiral Arturo Riccardi
Edit: Adopted German advise for the Armored Division
(TL; DR RP and division builds!!!!!)
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Germany applauds your heavy usage of Field Hospitals, and may even now be re-designing some divisions in the event that the Fatherlands manpower begins to quickly deplete. The Führer upon seeing your proposed armored divisions, suffered a stroke, and then berated me for 2 hours for not coming up with something as powerful as that. I manged to bluff my way to forgiveness stressing Italy has easier access to Oil than ourselves and so they can possibly afford it.
Perhaps my designs are too simple, but in them lies what I hope to be effectiveness. Again I praise your focus on Hospitals, and a dedicated Cavalry force to deal with the harsh conditions of North Africa. I neglected to mention our own Special Forces, but I can assure you I am in touch with the Luftwaffe to see if we can put together a template for the Fallschirmjäger.
If I had one personal criticism, it would be to not mix Motorized and Mechanized infantry together, but to rather start fully Motorized, and in future replace those units with Mechanized corps. After all, it is much cheaper early on to produce a covered truck, than a armored personnel carrier.
Perhaps my designs are too simple, but in them lies what I hope to be effectiveness. Again I praise your focus on Hospitals, and a dedicated Cavalry force to deal with the harsh conditions of North Africa. I neglected to mention our own Special Forces, but I can assure you I am in touch with the Luftwaffe to see if we can put together a template for the Fallschirmjäger.
If I had one personal criticism, it would be to not mix Motorized and Mechanized infantry together, but to rather start fully Motorized, and in future replace those units with Mechanized corps. After all, it is much cheaper early on to produce a covered truck, than a armored personnel carrier.
Hmm you make a good point about Motorized and Mechanized, It shall be adopted!
We would also like to point out that the armored division shall be purely based on a light tank chassis.
To keep up production but keep the costs low, we will also be designing around reliability and not firepower.
Il Duce also inquires as to the Fuhrers health, and hopes he is recovering well.
We would also like to point out that the armored division shall be purely based on a light tank chassis.
To keep up production but keep the costs low, we will also be designing around reliability and not firepower.
Il Duce also inquires as to the Fuhrers health, and hopes he is recovering well.