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Alright, now that I've completed my Violence is the Last Resort, I'll take a different path with a different country. This time as Russia. In 1492 Ivan III the Great appoints two new advisors: the new Military Advisor is Igor Igorovich Bushov:eek: while the Domestic Advisor is that renowned Irish statesman, Padraic McEnchroe:rolleyes: . Both advisors agree on the overall goal, that Russia should achieve its natural borders: the North Sea, Elbe River, Adriatic Sea, Black Sea, Tigris/Euphrates Rivers, the Indian Ocean, Pacific Ocean, and Arctic Ocean.

Whenever Igor is asked what we should do, he always replies "War!"; "Why should we?"; "Uhm, I'll tell you tomorrow."

Padraic takes a more pragmatic approach, and is more concerned with not letting Igor ruin the economy. Undoubtedly, wars will need to be fought, but trade and infrastructure are what makes these wars affordable.

Tolerances are to be set as follows: Orthodox will always be at maximum, nonChristrians will always be at minimum, and nonOrthodox Christians will be set equally. After all, a heretic by any other name would smell as rank. Where possible, minor nations will be dip annexed, and there will be no declarations against other Orthodox nations.

Oh, and since we're *the* Heartland power, there's no reason to spend our precious resources on Naval Tech, at least until Land Tech has reached max.

And don't expect my Russia to be so sweet and peaceful as England was:D .

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Haha! Violence is the first resort, now (at least if Igor gets his way;) )
 
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I wonder how far west you will get!
 

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Russia's quite an easy nation to conquer nations. Once I conquered Sweden, The Steppes, Explored and colonized all the way to the Pacific and in about 20 years. But seeing each game and persons style is different, it will be very interesting. Especially seeing war not peace this time. :D
 

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Originally posted by CitizenPaul
I wonder how far west you will get!

Well, I have set a goal I know I can't complete: I haven't downloaded the IGC yet (the Patch didn't take properly last time, so I'm doing something wrong :mad: ) so I can't conquer the provinces with Warsaw and Vienna. Other than that, I have every intention of fulfilling my goals, come hell or high water. Though I've often said that anyone who uses that phrase usually gets both:eek: .

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OK, let's see what I can do with this.

I started with a letter to Pskov (+25 on relations); promoted bailiffs in Moscow, Novgorod, and Tver; and Igor sent the army in Arkhangelsk down to Vladimir. All our government efforts are put into raising stability in the nation, which we maximize in Oct. We watch as Poland declares war on the Teutonic Order on 2 Mar, gaining Estonia and indemnities a mere three months later.

In early May, Moldavia offers us a royal marriage, to which we agree. While the ruling family there may be Romish heretics, the populus is of good solid Orthodox stock. In Jul we scrounge up another diplomat, and send him to forge a military alliance with Pskov, which he does successfully (otherwise it would have cost him his life; there aren't any Siberian gulags yet:D ).

Seeing how easily Poland defeated the Teutons, Igor urged our lord Ivan Veliky to declare war, but I convinced him that we needed to expand our alliance to contain the threat to ourselves from Poland, and that there were better targets to be found in the meantime. As a concession to Igor, however, I do agree to putting all our research into land tech.

In Nov we took our first loan (I really need to learn patience in the earky game:rolleyes: ) in order to promote bailiffs in Vladimir, Vologda, and Onega. On New Years Day 1493 the wedding between members of the Moscovy and Pskov royal houses was held in the Kremlin, as part of my long-term goal of incorporating them quietly into the realm. We also mustered 18k infantry in Moscow. On 21 Feb, the King of Bohemia sent an envoy to arrange for dynastic ties between our realms. At first Ivan did not wish to agree (after all, these were heretics), but I convinced him that this would simplify matters in getting them to agree to join our allience against Poland.

In Mar, Kazan started improving the fortifications at their capital. Igor went into hysterics, claiming that this was irrefutible proof that they posed an immenent threat to our security, and that war was "forced upon us". It looked like a war we could win quickly on our own, and we could use the increased tax base, so I didn't try to prevent this one. As soon as we could find a sucker to play the part of the diplomat (1 Jul), we declared war.

Our main army marched on Lipetsk, which fell to assault at the end of the month. Unfortunately, we lost a battle at Ryazan at the start of Aug, but snatched victory at Kazan on the 10th. On the 12th they offered to cede Lipetsk in return for peace, but we claimed that Ivan was summering in Murmansk and sent the envy there. We wiped out a Kazan army that had marched from Ryazan to Moscow on 24 Aug, although later another would sit outside our gates until they abandoned their attempted seige on 16 Nov.

Sep was an inauspicious month, as they lifted our seige of Vorones on the 15th. On 1 Nov another envoy arrived with the same offer; this one we told Ivan was vacationing on the Adriatic. I don't think he believed us. The next few months saw the war go well if slower than I had hoped. Ryazan fell on 7 Nov, Kazan itself on 8 Jan 1494, and Tambow on 3 Feb. In the Battle of Lipetsk (18-19 Feb) we wiped out an army of over 12 000 in just two days of fierce fighting. In Mar, as word of our glorious fighting spirit spread among the courts of Europe, it all led to the Great Reputation (+10 relations all countries) of Russia in general and Ivan in particular. Now all Europe understands why we call him Veliky.

This had been, however, a bitterly cold and snow filled winter. By early spring we had no infantry left but the newly mustered army in Moscow, and so it wasn't until 8 Jul that Vorones finally fell to our forces. The next day, a ragtag envoy appeared at the gates, suggesting that perhaps we had earned the rights to Lipetsk, and that Kazan would be willing to grant us peace after that. We didn't bother toying with this one, but rather ordered him drawn and quatered on the spot. Instead, we announced to the world that these provinces were now an integral part of Russia.

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A Cold Water Port

After the dust had settled from our Kazan war, we set about preparing against Poland. Moldavia joined our Orthodox alliance (despite their heretical nobility:rolleyes: ) on 2 Sep '94. Bohemia completed the triangular encirclement on New Years '95. I'd have liked to have a powerful Austria on board, but they had already formed their own alliance, with Hungary. Other diplomatic news, this time from the Far West, we learned that England declared against Scotland on 1 Jun '95, a war that would last until 23 Dec '98 with the Scots paying indemnities; too bad, I was hoping for a Celtic Revival:D .

Our Land Tech rose in Nov '94 and again in Jan '96, allowing us to build cannon to aid in the seiging of fortified towns. In Sep of the latter I cosigned our third loan in order to raise cannon at Onega and Lipetsk, and cannon-fodder at Onega and Novgorod; send merchants to CoTs around the Baltic; and again dip Pskov (relations now up to +92).

Igor had been pushing for a war against the Teutonic Order for years, and finally I allowed him to win the day in the Kremlin. If we can take Ingermanland, it will solve our problem of not being able to afford to fortify our border (Onega and the rest of the North lack even minimal defences), will remove one neighbor from our borders, and will give us a port to accept more refugees from the rest of Europe to use to build up our colonies around the White Sea. So, with everything in readiness, we declare war on April Fool's Day 1497. We called upon our allies, and they all join although Pskov is the only one we need for this. But when we hear their list of allies (Venice, Portugal, Hanse, and Brandenburg) we realize that Bohemia is now in harm's way, and they would indeed suffer at the hands of the last two.

The war would go well, although our lack of forts in the North would give me many gray hairs. On 16 May we defeat the Teutonic army at Ingermanland, commanded by Plettenberg who retreats into an open Onega:eek: . Our first assault of the city goes well (we lose 1014/26647; their 5000-10 garrison is dropped to 468-3) but fails to take the town. On 12 Jun we wipe out the Teutonic army at the capital, and the next day they offer us 108 gold. Igor is now calling for complete conquest (fool; we can't reach Memel, not without declaring war without cause on Courland) while I'm tempted to take the cash to build up the nation, but decide the port is too important; the offer is declined.

We bring another army up to chase down Plettenberg, and retake Onega on 7 Jul. Unfortunately they raise the seige of Livonia on 16 Aug; they are not prevented from walking through Courland! On 8 Sep they offer 135 gold, but with a second assault on Ingermanland under way, there is no question of rejecting the offer. The city falls on the 17th:D . On 1 Oct we finally remove the threat in the North, completely destroying Plettenburg and his army at Onega.

On the morning of 1 Nov, we lose a battle at Livonia, while that same afternoon our other army arrives from Pskov:( . That army wins its battle on the 9th, and the next day an envoy arrives suggesting a truce. Such effrontery does not go unpunished, and he is thrown into the swamps of the Neva, neva to be seen again. Their capital fell to assault on 18 Dec, and now it just became a question of extracting our army before we could make peace. We chose the path of "Let not the quick wait for the slow, and the Devil take the hindmost!" Cannon are expensive, but 1 isn't much of a loss.

Get out they did, reaching Pskov on 14 Jan '98, three days after a Teutonic force lands at Ingermanland. Our cannoneer delivered the ultimatum, demanding that province as well as cash indemnities. They accept, but now their coffers only hold 3 gold! Oh well, not every war is going to be too profitable.

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Great one Pat. This look to bee as good as your last one;)
 

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At least if you completely annihilate their economy like that, you know they have to take a loan and screw up their treasury like that. If you do that enough, you can really hurt them without doing that much.
 

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Originally posted by Morpheus506
At least if you completely annihilate their economy like that, you know they have to take a loan and screw up their treasury like that. If you do that enough, you can really hurt them without doing that much.

I know, but it happens to my allies as well. I've been checking what my spies Word and Pad find every 5~10 years (I'm actually about ten years beyond what I've written) and I've actually been successful with not letting Igor ruin the economy, since I've kept the loans to no more than three (I just paid off one) of 12~13%. Many of the other countries involved in my wars now have 5 loans of 25~35%.

And the best part, if I get into a war with Poland, the rest of the world will gang up on them, not me. We've each anialated two countries, and they've gained three provinces and lost one, while we've gained 14 provinces losing none, but their BB rating is higher than ours:D . And speaking of which, why doesn't Tula have a Russian shield? Now I'll have revolts for the next three decades!:mad:

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The Pskov Gambit

Late 1498 was good to us. After gaining the ability to use artillery we put our research into Trade and then Infrastructure. Trade went to level 2 in Oct, making our merchants more effective (multiple 0.19 > 0.25). We also invited Denmark to join our alliance; this should take some of the pressure off of Bohemia, and they have a strong fleet as well. On 18 Nov I arranged for dynastic ties between our nations, and we exchanged gifts for Christmas: one of their atlases for one of ours (9/15 provinces). Then on New Years '99 a diplomatic exchange with Pskov raised relations over the 100 mark.

In the Far West, Scotland declared against England in mid Jun '99, and while this again stirred my heart, it would end in a tired truce a year and a half later. In Sep the Pope declared that Spain and Portugal should share temporal rule of the world. It doesn't matter; Russia will have its own. In Jan 1500 we send out our first colonists, to Far Karelia and Arkhangelsk, and diplomats to Pskov and Georgia. I hid my embarasment, having had to be reminded that there was another Orthodox nation.:rolleyes:

France annexed Milan in late Aug of that year. Our Intrastructure Tech advanced in Sep (level 2), and in Nov 1501 so did our Naval Tech (level 1). Igor became ascendant at the Kremlin when Persia was backed by Poland in declaring war on Turkey on 14 Mar 1502, although I did convince Ivan to wait a little while to let the Polish armies on our border march well south. Milan declared its independence on 1 May, but were reconquered some 8 months later.

On 2 Jun we issue our declaration of war, and all allies join in. All our armies march on Tula, whose fortifications upgrade will be completed in early Aug. When Persia and Turkey agree to a truce on 15 Aug, it frees up Polands armies in the south to gang up on Moldavia, which is forced to pay indemnities on 24 Apr '03. Tula proved a tough nut to crack, not falling until 25 Jun. The next day Poland agrees to pay indemnities, but we only receive 41 gold, nowhere near enough to repay our loan.:mad:

Ivan's last year was filled with its own glory. On 1 Feb our relations with Pskov reached +194; on 3 Mar we offered them our atlas (0/20), and offered to accept them as a vassal, to which they agreed. In addition, Arkhangelsk became a city in Apr. In the Far West the Spanish Bloc declared war against France in late May, settling for a truce little more than a week later. And France annexed Wessex off of England in late Dec; at least someone is doing well against those Anglo-Norman pig dogs.

And that ended the reign of Ivan III Veliky. (why does everyone else have historical start/end dates for reigns, while Russia's all start on 1 Jan?:confused: )

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Re: The Pskov Gambit

Originally posted by pjcrowe
And that ended the reign of Ivan III Veliky. (why does everyone else have historical start/end dates for reigns, while Russia's all start on 1 Jan?:confused: )

I guess they just don't know the dates for them...

I'm sure they start having historical startdates later on, though.


btw, maybe you should think about taking Scotland under your wing(even if they are unorthodox :rolleyes: ). You could help out the little guy change history by not getting swallowed by England, and maybe grab some land in the Isles;) .
 

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Re: Re: The Pskov Gambit

Originally posted by Morpheus506
I guess they just don't know the dates for them...

I'm sure they start having historical startdates later on, though.

Well, the dates are known even for this period, and no they don't change it later on:mad: . Just something I'll have to live with.

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Hmm... weird.

If you want the accuracy, just use Leader Editor to fix the dates.
 

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PJ: Which version of the GC/IGC are you using. IGC 2.3 has the start and end dates for 95% of the Russian leaders.
 

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Yeah I noticed that too. Everyone from Vasily III down (with two exceptions in the middle) has historic dates.
 

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PJ: Which version of the GC/IGC are you using. IGC 2.3 has the start and end dates for 95% of the Russian leaders.

Plain old GC, I think version 1.07 (if that's what that number in the corner when I shut the game down means). I had tried downloading the patch but it doesn't seem to have taken, since I'm able to do things people say are fixed there. Oh well, I'll live with it; after all, it can't be too bad when I've played more than 20 years beyond what I've written up so far:D .

Guess I need to do some catching up:rolleyes: .

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Alrighty then, I've been terribly remiss, having played all the way through Vassili III's reign without writing one word about it, so here are a few...

With the rise of Vassili, we also get a true leader of soldiers, Glinski (4/4/4/-1), whose older brother/cousin/something-or-other Michael serves the Poles. We send our occasional colonists to Far Karelia, build up our armies at Kazan, Tambow, and especially at Vorones, and slowly improve relations with Georgia. In Feb 1506 our Land Tech advances (4), giving us a slight lead over our neighboring enemies.

This is especially important versus the Golden Horde, which in that spring sent an envoy to demand why Vassili had not yet given homage to our Tartar 'overloards' since we were his 'subject vassals'. Needless to say, such an insult did not sit well with the Grand Prince, and Igor was instructed to plan a war against them to set things right. I nearly failed in my own efforts, as while each war was short enough, we would end up fighting constantly for three and a half years.

When we declared war on 27 Jun, Crimea came to the aid of the Golden Horde. Our main army was based at Vorones, and Igor sent them towards the Tartar towns, but the entire Horde (10k cav) reached our province first, on 16 Jul. By the time the smoke and dust settled, on the 25th, they had been wiped out to a man. Glinski again set his army in motion, only to be pinned again on 8 Aug, this time by a Crimean army coming up from the south. That battle would rage until the 22nd.

Little more than a week later, Crimea had a new problem, as Donetsk rebelled. Bogutjar fell to us on 27 Sep, and two days later the Horde offered that for peace. They would repeat this offer again on 11 Nov, but they refused to recognize Vassili as their overlord. Saratow fell on 22 Nov, Kujbyschew on 30 Dec. On New Year's 1507 they offer both Bogutjar and Saratow; Igor and I both argue against this, he claiming that the Horde poses an iminent threat to all Europe, me holding out for the gold of Samara. That last province fell to Glinski on 8 Feb.

Igor argued that we should try to annex part of Crimea as well, and Vassili listened to him, demanding that the annexation of the Horde be a separate peace.[OOC: the beauty of having two advisors is that I always have a scapegoat:rolleyes: ] And so the war entered its second phase. Horde inf and Crimean cav had been seiging Vorones together, and news of the peace led to combat between these former allies. One week later, just before their own morale broke, Crimea wiped out the last of the Horde. But attrition would lift the seige by the end of Mar.

In Jun Donetsk rebelled again, and they would capture the city on 2 Jul. Just one day earlier France errupted in Civil War, with a dozen provinces (including Paris) in revolt:eek: . Once the rebels in Donetsk had won, we sent in Glinski to take it for ourselves. And then the complications started:( . On 14 Jul Astrakhan declared war on us. By 9 Aug we had wiped out the rebels, but had lost too many men to assault the city (where did rebels get cav:eek: ). TND, with one star and Crimea sending a 37+k army our way, we demand indemnities for our assistance in restoring order. They agree, and we recieve 94 gold.

One month later Glinski arrived at Lugansk, and that city fell rapidly, on 3 Oct. Things quieted down over the winter, but Volgograd fell on 10 Mar 1508 and Uralsk on 16 Apr. That same month we built up Far Karelia into a city. Then, on the 29th and within weeks of victory, they abandoned their seige of Lugansk, only to reinstate it one week later. With their capital under seige, on 9 May we demand Uralsk and cash, but they refuse.

Along the Baltic, Poland annexed Courland at the end of Jun, and on 17 Sep the war entered its third and final phase as Poland declared war on us. Fortunately, all our allies supported us; we had no troops of our own but were on the Caspian coast:eek: . We scrounged up a diplomat in early Nov, and hurridly sent him off to Warsaw with an offer of a white peace; Polish troops were marching through Ingermanland with nothing but unfortified provinces beyond that. We were, however, rebuffed, So when Astrakhan fell on 7 Nov and the next day they offered Lugansk, Volgograd, and Uralsk, we accepted and ordered Glinski to the Polish front.

Luckily for us, the Poles are not receiving aid from famed Irish statesmen and ignore all those cheap victories in the north. In any case, all their armies head for Moldavia, whose armies are equally obstinant in avoiding their one and only province. By Jan '09 their small fortress was being beseiged by armies totaling nearly 50k men. It fell on 17 May, and TND Moldavia ceased to exist.

With the arrival of our Glinski that spring, things went well for us. Tula was first to fall, on 11 Jun, followed by Kursk (6 Jul) and Smolensk (9 Aug). After the Glinski boys met (and ours "strategically withdrew") we asked for Tula and cash (3/4) on 24 Aug but were rebuffed. Our army reached Tula on 22 Sep, and we sent the bulk of it back to Mozyr while at my suggestion the cav was used to pin the Poles in order to save Pskov from Moldavia's fate. They did so twice in Oct at Welikia, while on the 13th Crimea repaid their debt to us in full, declaring war on Poland. On 11 Nov, as Mozyr fell, we again demand Tula and cash, and recieve 42 gold.

I have to wonder, why doesn't Russia have a sheild in Tula when every province all around does? They would rebel in Apr '10, as well as Jan, Mar, and Oct '11. The rest of these next few years was spent repaying loans, our first true payoff being in Jan '10, culminating in clearing our ledger in Sep '13. Crimea would end up ceding Donetsk to Poland on 4 Oct '10. France got ganged up on in Apr of that year, as England and Spain declared against them on consecutive days, France losing Bearn and cash to Spain six months later. And in Mar 1512 Vassili remarked about Igor's ramblings "it's all starting to make sense!", and was deemed to be suffering a Temporary Insanity.

More coming soon, I promise!

-Pat
 

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That's the best random event, Temporary Insanity. OK, so it kills your values, but hey, Insanity is cool.
 

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Originally posted by Morpheus506
That's the best random event, Temporary Insanity. OK, so it kills your values, but hey, Insanity is cool.

Actually, Vassili's values are so low to begin with, it really didn't make much difference:cool:

-Pat