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I had never tried Sweden before, but a game as Denmark had showed me that Sweden had some strong points. Let's try it with very hard difficulty, AI aggressiv.

At the start of a 1617 scenario, Sweden controls what is actual Sweden save Skane in the South and the Gotland island in the Baltic see, modern Finland, Intergermanland (where St Petersburg will be created later) and Estonia.

We have a weapon manufactory and a naval equipement manufactory, as well as a COT in our capital. Some province are well fortified (level 3), most have average fortifications or small one and one semi-deserted province up north hasn’t any walls…
We’ve got over 1000 Kronen at start, two merchants, no diplomat, no colonist.

However, we know all the Northern Atlantic ocean, the coasts of the Americas, Africa (East and West), India and the western part of the East Indies. However, if we have sea maps, the lands remain mostly terra incognita.

We have three armies, one with De la Gardie, and something like 30k inf, 10k cav and 50 guns…

Just to warn you before starting to write what happened, I went to 1720 with only one war, so it won’t a battling AAR…

With two neighbours, big and bad and not loving me (Russia and Denmark), I feel a bit lonely. With my first diplomats, I succeed in arranging a Royal marriage with Russia. As for Denmark, the oppressors of the Swedes (they own Gotland, which is a Swedish home province), I shall not make them believe I fear them. I have a permanent CB against them, I guess it will be used some day.

On the economic level, I quickly gain a monopoly in my COT and build strong positions in neighbouring COTS (Holstein, Danzig, Volgorod, Holland). However, after a while Poland refuses trade and I lose all merchants in Danzug in a few months. This gives me a CB against Poland, but well, it’s big, it’s nasty, so let’s forget it.

My alliance at start is with the Hansa but it doesn’t last long as our relations are not so good. During the first 50 years, I gang up with anyone who accepts me, France for some years, Spain after, England once… In the last fifty years however, we have build a solid alliance with Austria, Saxonny and Hannover, with which relations are all excellent, to the point of making Hannover a Swedish vassal.

My strategy was to live in peace and get rich. In time, over a century, Sweden constructed full infrastructures in all its provinces, got them fortified at their maximum, build a fine arts academy, three breweries, two weapon manufactories and two naval equipment manufactories.
But the fact is that Sweden has loads of leaders, and good ones at that. So when Gustavus Adolph arrives, with stats I have never seen before in any games, I just cannot say, no I want to be in peace. Offer makes demand, and such a leader needs war. The problem is that the Danish-Russian alliance is strong, Prussia is allied at this time with England, and five other minors, Poland is a bit big… It leaves the Hansa, alone, no alliance, little fortifications, a ridiculous army…

OK, this is bad, they had done nothing against me, it was unprovoked attack but it was just too good and Gustavus was just to great. Never before had I seen provinces fall so rapidly with so few men (25k inf, 5k cav, 30 cannons). This walk-over ended with the full annexation of the Hansa, bringing new wealth (5 rich provinces and a COT in Holstein).

That was the Swedish war. (Our Austrian allies years later brought us into war against Turkey but Sweden did absolutely nothing during it except giving financial help to Austria (Sweden paid the 250 Schilling they had to give Turkey for peace).

But with gold and colonist, and some identified but unoccupied islands here and there, Sweden managed to become a middle colonial power helped by a conquistador (event).

By 1720, Sweden has Guadeloupe, Martinique, Barbados, St Martin (sugar islands in the Caribbean, three of them now with breweries), 4 cities in what is today’s North Brasil, 9 trade posts along Africa’s west coast and a colony in Mahe, a nice island in the Indian Ocean. There are still unoccupied areas on the American East coast, so the next Swedish move will be in that direction.

Now, Sweden has a yearly budget of nearly 300 Kronen, and gets 25 per month for a total income of 600 per year. We have build armies (75k inf, 10k cav and 60 cannons in Europe pllus some colonial troops) but still needs an effort for the navy.

It might be that the end of the century will be less peaceful. With a strong alliance in Central Europe, war against Denmark, or Poland seems possible, or against Prussia (it has got Brandenburg but lost two provinces to Poland). In any case, I will try to teach the Danes a lesson. No more Danelaw in Scandinavia, that's our goal.
 

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Thanks yndenwal -- it's interesting to see some more of the economic side of the game. What steps did you take to build up the economy?
 

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Originally posted by KRonn:
Thanks yndenwal -- it's interesting to see some more of the economic side of the game. What steps did you take to build up the economy?

Well if I try to summarize :
- Provinces provides an income for their owner and generate trade for the COT they belong to.
- You get money from the provinces you own and from the merchants you succesfully place in COTs.

Your revenues come from in two ways : an annual budget each 1st of January, depending on your country's overall wealth and a monthly income each 1st of the Month
depending on what amount you reserve for the treeasury (against what goes for stability, land tech, naval tech, infrastructure tech and trade tech).

So, to earn more money :
- Place merchants in COTs
- Get more provinces through wars, diplomatic annexation
- increase the value of your provinces.

For this you can build improvements (Marshalls, bailiffs, seneshals) that will improve the base tax value of the province. You can also build one factory in a given province and this increase the overall value of the province as well as what goes to the COT.

The improvements cost 50 or 100 gold (base value modified by inflation along the course of the game), whereas a manufactory costs 1000 (base value also).


When I write 'constructed full infrastructures' it means that all provinces have these Bailiff, chancellor and seneschal (that is a base spending of 200 per province without inflation, 300 for Sweden as the starting costs were 75 and 150 gold).
 

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Thanks for the summary.

I assume that when you capture a province, more income is generated as your relationship improves (if ever).
Also, there are various items shown in provinces -- lumber, types of ore, shirts, sheep, fish. How do these items affect your trade, and do they give any additional benefits to facilities (manufactories, shipyards, etc.) within your provinces?
(Sorry if this has been asked before -- I don't recall seeing it).
 
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Good questions, KRonn - I'd like to know too. I saw somewhere that each province produces a good which is traded in the COT.

yndenwal,
It's nice every now & again to read an AAR that is more peaceful :) Although I don't blame you for wanting to use Gustavus Adolphus. Maybe that would have been a good time to go after Skane?
 

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It is good to see a more peaceful AAR once in a while. A whole century at peace, spent building up trade and infrastructure should have allowed the population to grow nicely as well...

Some questions:

1) What was the name of that conquistador you got?

2) What was your VP rank? It would be interesting to know to which degree peace pays off.

3) Don't you think that the Hansa would have been a perfect ally against Denmark?

/Doomie
 

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Nothing to do with Sweden, but it is the East coast. Not much colonial activity in North America yet.
Our Royal mariage with England lifts the fog of war on their provinces...
 

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Originally posted by KRonn:
Thanks for the summary.

I assume that when you capture a province, more income is generated as your relationship improves (if ever).
Also, there are various items shown in provinces -- lumber, types of ore, shirts, sheep, fish. How do these items affect your trade, and do they give any additional benefits to facilities (manufactories, shipyards, etc.) within your provinces?
(Sorry if this has been asked before -- I don't recall seeing it).

Each province produces a Good : naval supplies (ie lumber), fish, wool, wine, salt, iron, gold, ivory, tobacco, sugar, spices, etc, etc.
Each has a given market price (evolving with time as more ressources become available) with is used to calculate the value of the province for the CoT. Guess what? Sugar, Tobacco, Spices, Ivory are worth a lot...
Grain on the other hand is rather common stuff.
 

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Originally posted by Doomdark:
It is good to see a more peaceful AAR once in a while. A whole century at peace, spent building up trade and infrastructure should have allowed the population to grow nicely as well...

Some questions:

1) What was the name of that conquistador you got?

2) What was your VP rank? It would be interesting to know to which degree peace pays off.

3) Don't you think that the Hansa would have been a perfect ally against Denmark?

/Doomie

1) I don't remember right now, but I think all random leaders have names from leaders or armies, so it was a Swedish name.

2) Second behind Spain. However, I've gone a little farther last night and now I'm first... However with 1702 VP and 1698 for Spain! :)

3)My relation with them was bad and as our alliance went off, it would have been difficult to rebuild. Now, they are very cooperative...
 

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WAR ! ! !
Yes, this is now a time of wars.
Three wars have been declared by Sweden in ten years.
Poland and Russia-Denmark fight each other, Sweden decides to strike Denmark in the back. In one short and bloody war, Skane and Jylland (?, the continental part of Denmark) fall in Swedish hands.

Sweden then declares war on Prussia and its French ally comes to its help. Prussia is easily defeated, thanks to Austrian help and annexed, but the fight against France goes on. French armies defeats the small Swedish army in our capital and besiege it. All our armies are in Prussia but eventually, the King himself arrives, beats the French under the walls of Stockholm and glorifully enters its liberated city. We propose a white peace but France refuses.

A French expeditionnary force lands in Antigua and captures it. Repelled in Scandinavia, we send a task force to France, which is now also at war against Spain. Our task force lands in Caux and France proposes a white peace, which we accept. Paris is being besieged by Spaniards.

A few years after the Poles and Russian-Danes once again declare war against each other. Six month after, our alliance declares war on Poland. Sweden captures Memel, Danzig and the Polish capital. The peace treaty gives Sweden Memel and Danzig (which is the COT Poland refused us to trade in).

After these brilliant military campaigns, achieved with few losses, Hannover accept to be annexed by Sweden.
Except for Livonia and Kurland, all Baltic bordering provinces are in Swedish hands !
 

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Except for Livonia and Kurland, all Baltic bordering provinces are in Swedish hands!

Great work! I am impressed with how you've kept the Muscovites off your back. You have now replaced Brandenburg as the dynamic powerhouse of the 18th century. Just go ahead and annex Denmark...
 

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Originally posted by yndenwal:

Except for Livonia and Kurland, all Baltic bordering provinces are in Swedish hands !
Ehhh.... doesn't Zealand (Danish isles - containing Copenhagen) border the Baltic. You haven't annexed Denmark yet, have you?

btw It looks like Denmark loses Jylland quite often, judging from AARs I have read. This annoys me somewhat as that would be very hard to accomplish, it's Danish heartland, and should at least have a nice big chance of revolting. Oh well... guess it's just me being a nationalist... guess we all are somewhere deep down :)
 

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Originally posted by Doomdark:
Just go ahead and annex Denmark...
I'll try but this won't be so easy, as Denmark has still its capital, all Norway, Gotland and Iceland, 9 provinces.
 

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Originally posted by Peder P:
Ehhh.... doesn't Zealand (Danish isles - containing Copenhagen) border the Baltic. You haven't annexed Denmark yet, have you?

I was speaking of continental provinces. All baltic isles (ie Gotland and Zealand) are still Danish (not ofr long, I swear !)
 

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Originally posted by Peder P:

btw It looks like Denmark loses Jylland quite often, judging from AARs I have read. This annoys me somewhat as that would be very hard to accomplish, it's Danish heartland, and should at least have a nice big chance of revolting. Oh well... guess it's just me being a nationalist... guess we all are somewhere deep down :)
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And what was the difference between Skåne and Jylland? Both were primary parts of the Danish heartland, but if Skåne could be lost so could Jylland have been.

(If Cromwell hadn't gone and died when he did, Jylland would have become british with Norway going to Swedien and the Oresund controlled by England/Sweden jointly,.)

/Johan
 

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You might be right Johan, but nowadays Danes find it impossible to think that Jylland should be lost without the whole of Denmark getting lost in the war!
But there is the difference between Skåne and Jylland that we had a capital in Jylland once. And neither to forget, Skåne was negleted some years.

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[This message has been edited by King Christian IV (edited 22-09-2000).]
 

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A comment on the map of North America.

I took a look at the province of Manhattan. It is mostly made up of modern day New Jersey. Even in the past we were a suburb of New York City!

BTW, the western border of the province looks a little odd. I suspect the natural border would be the Delaware River and that border only vaguely looks like it.
 

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I've really enjoyed your post, yndenwal. It's my style of play in other games, like Civilization 2: building up slowly the economy. Later on, using your richness to build an army and attack.

I cannot wait more for this game to be released. If Anno 1602 got a lot of sales in Germany, I'm sure this one will get double, at least.

/Laruku
 

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Originally posted by Dragon:
Very nice job.....smooth as silk. Can't belive you managed to avoid the typical ganging up of Denmark and Russia againist Sweden,hope you sent the Poles a thank you note.

This was indeed my worst fear. Having played both Russia and Denmark before, I had quite a precise idea of what could happen to Sweden...
As for the Thank note to Poland, wait for the sequel of this AAR, you won't be disappointed.
And all Scandinavian out there who dream of a North ALliance will see their dream come true...
Baltica Mare Nostrum... (coming tomorrow I hope)