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Three full annexations within few years...

My advice. Overrun them completly, then demand all their provinces and cash, but not annex them. After all, you will still have casus belli, and they won't be threat anymore.
After that, lay low for some time, soak BB. And turn Protestant :D

And there are some good news. I hope Turkey will annex Crimea, then after they will attack you, stack huge cavalry army in Bessarabia, Turk will have to cross river, and they will be slaugtered, and you will be free to capture Crimea, ending it's threat once and for all.
 

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Do not, I repeat do not annex TO unless your ready for a lot of DOW from everyone around you. Your BB is going to be a killer if your not careful. Take the money or provinces but do not annex.

Joe
 

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Originally posted by Slogan
How about some screenies?

I'm sorry but I wont be able to get any screenies because:
1) As it is said before, it isn't a true AAR, and this means that no game is played as it is written...
2) I have a game of P-L in which I made about half of Europe to kneel before me, but I'm not allowed to post attachements to my posts. Can anyone tell me why it is so?
 

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2) demand Ingermanland or Memel instead;
I like this idea, go for a few provinces and cash. The TO willbe mortally wounded after this, no need to annex them.
 

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I see that noone wants TO to be annexed. Let this be so...

In April 1527, P-L declined TO's offer of 500d. Then, in July, Reval fell after a huge assault. So, P-L had all seven stars upon TO, but demanded only Ingermanland and Estonia. TO accepted (you ask why didn't I ask Memel - I will need it myself, and I don't want any wars against Hungary). Having four new ports, P-L started to build a large navy. Some tax collectors were appointed and armies renewed. Technology was rising fast: in 1530, P-L had land7, naval3, stab3, trade4, infra4. The treasury had always about 500d and life was getting peaceful. But a major war awaited. Russia annexed Kazan and had a strong allince with Denmark and Astrakhan. P-L was Russia's next target.
Meanwhile, Denmark cancelled their vassalization upon Sweden and declared war upon them. The war dured 15 years, and such peace was signed: Denmark pays 250d, Jamtland to Sweden. While war was still being fought, P-L managed to make Sweden join the alliance with Hungary, Hannover and Hessen. So, the Russian alliance now had a new counterpart - the Lithuanian alliance.
But as soon as year 1553 started, Russia declared war upon P-L. Thankfully, Astrakhan dishonored the alliance. So, as this war will later ve called thge FIRST NORDIC WAR, there will be lots of decisions to make. The first is:
1) will P-L call their allies or
2) will P-L try to stand alone against both Russia and Denmark.

Remember - your vote can change future's history.
 

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i'd say call the allies, hopefully sweden will take care of denmark while you focus on russia.
 

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Call the allies, and take a province or 2:D
And if you want to be nice, give a province or 2 to Sewden;)
 

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I should probably wait for more votes, but I'm anxious to write something myself, so I'll take the results being now (2-1 for calling allies - sorry, Slogan)

P-L called for their allies in Sweden, Hungary, Hannover and Hessen. All of them agreed. P-L's armies marched to Tula, and there was collected about 120k men. This army quickly marched to Moscow and had the city besieged in September 1553. However, a damn winter was soon to come. So, P-L started to make lots of reinforcements. After winter was gone, P-L's forces were reduced to 50k in Moscow. But Russian armies were completely destroyed and the fools had no money left. So, Lithuanian reinforcements went to Moscow, and the city fell in July 1554, after a succesful assault. Now there is a time for another decision:
1) should P-L demand money and sign a peace treaty with Russia, or
2) should P-L continue the war and take some provinces?

Meanwhile, Sweden forces quickly took Finmark, Narvik, Kola and Far Karelia. Skane, Ostlandet and Trondelag were besieged. When these cities fell in the beginning of year 1554, Sweden signed a peace, taking Ostlandet, Finmark and Narvik. Then, Denmark besieged Oldenburg...

That's another place for you to make your decisions. Vote quickly, I wont write more until I get at least 8 votes.
 

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So, as the result is 5-0 for continuing the war, I think I don't need to wait anymore.

In August 1554, Russia sent a peace agreement to P-L, offering 21d (yuck!). P-L declined. Instead of that, they went south, taking Lipestk with them (minimal fortress fell in 1 month). Then, in the beginning of 1556, all Kazan was taken. Russia already have signed a peace with Sweden, giving Kola and Far Karelia. Then, in April 1556, Russia offered a peace, offering Lipetsk, Voronezh and Tambow. P-L would have agreed, but in the meantime, huge revolt began in Novgorod and Onega. So, what this will get to:
1) will P-L accept, take these provinces and let the Russians deal with revolters or
2) will P-L decline and help the revolters to become independent.

Vote, vote, vote!!!
 

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if you help the revolters, thats more nations that you will have to annex, which means bigger bb. Take the 3 provinces.:cool: