A big shock. Discrimination
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Yea and people on the internet can be 100% serious about silly issues...
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Soviet tree is small but a big tree does not equal big fun.
A lot of things in focuses could be put in decisions for a better tree,
A lot of things in focuses could be put in decisions for a better tree,
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I disagree with your last statement.
The BftB DLC was a normal sized country pack, with flavourful and big national focus trees.
And just as a remainder, here is what you said in your first post:
This is madness for two reasons: (a) Each update only ~3-4 nations got a focus tree. The exception was TfV (patch 1.3), but all of the TfV focus trees are really small and count as outdated nowadays. (b) The baltic sisters (Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, not sure what your "Luthia" is) are to small to get national focus trees. This logic even more applies to breakaway states like Slowakia and other breakaway states. This was exactly the reason why the devs didn't include an Austrian focus tree, btw.
Scandinavia is likely to get a country pack, I could imagine. My hope is, that 1.11 gives Finland a focus tree, and the 1.12 country pack could give a focus tree to the three Scandinavian states (Finland is not a Scandinavian state, but a Nordic one).
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Oof.
Yes. Soviet union is greatest nation in world and game. Is not nation anymore, but still greatest. Glory to soviet union. I am not biased at all. lol.
Should have seen it coming from a person who played for years without even LOOKING at non-soviet content. By the way, I'm quite curious : how ? Even if you don't play other nations, it's a strategy game. Knowing what focuses others have at their disposition seems like important information...
Either way, as others have said : the devs have said that they know Italy and the USSR are in dire need of a rework and, being consider majors in game, they will have some at some point.
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"Discrimination", put this word it here and there to generate some clickbait. Nice try man.
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I play Soviet myself major reworks are needed. From tree to doctrine onward to command chain massive rethinking.
The Soviet tree was larger and more involved than many of the other initial trees at game launch. Four years ago some modders had some excellent mods for the Commonwealth nations, and not too long after we got TfV. I don't know what influenced DoD [as I was buried in XCOM2 back then] but the popularity of Kaiserreich certainly influenced elements of WtT [and continues to influence successive DLCs]. At that time China had the worst focus for a major country - the generic one.
Actually, I should have looked at the stats for the OP. A recruit with two posts, both of which are in this thread. Troll much?! ANd yes, I do feel a bit stupid for offering a serious reply.
Stop discriminating Pdox! Or we will call Putin and he will invade Sweden.
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Too late now. There is no going back for this game.
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Nope Focus Trees are a must have. Every Game without them or something similar isn´t a Game. Esp. in that Gerne.
The Civ-Series have them and many others.
The Civ-Series have them and many others.
All kidding aside, this does to a degree remind of the map (and mission) issues in EUIV--essentially taking years after release to upgrade regions piecemeal, so that the game is almost always out of balance in some way. Same thing with the focus trees. And you end up with the same problems the upgraded focus trees are having--part of the world don't have the same depth as others even after they are upgraded because their upgrades took place several years apart. I always thought the EUIV devs would have served the game better by simply doing one massive map update and I think HOI IV would have been better served by one massive focus tree update.
There are differences between EU4 and HOI4, tho. HOI4 is laid out as a very story telling game. This is only possible because the time frame is short and wars are total. EU4 was better served by the old dynamic mission system, that generated mission depending on your situation. The mission system of EU4 made the game much, much worse, because EU4 has a way longer time frame and the situation are much more dynamical than in HOI4.
The Soviet focus tree is not that good, I agree with that, but I fear its future replacement. As bad as the Soviet focus tree is, the new overelaborate focus trees strike me as much worse. Not only do the new focus trees invariably break the game in unexpected ways when they're introduced, but they make the game too much of an RPG rather than a strategy game.
I realize that it's a pipe dream to design a system with robust first principles where every country is automatically playing out as historical just because that's the way incentives are guiding it, but we should still strive to do the best we can, and the new-style focus trees are the exact opposite of what we need for that.
I realize that it's a pipe dream to design a system with robust first principles where every country is automatically playing out as historical just because that's the way incentives are guiding it, but we should still strive to do the best we can, and the new-style focus trees are the exact opposite of what we need for that.
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