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I was looking through the territorial statistics as Germany with the whole map revealed... and I discovered that Houston, in additon to 5 ICs, 5 energy, 3 metal, and 54 oil, has 91 rares, the most of any province in the game.

Can someone who knows about Houston's contributions to the war effort - or someone from Paradox - explain this? I always thought it odd that the US started out with a surplus of rares, as it was the loss of Malaysia (27 rares each in the 4 provinces north of Singapore, and 28 in Aingapore proper) that really put a dent in the US rubber supply.

I'd prefer that rares were spread out more evenly amoung various minors, so they'd have more to trade. 91 rare materials in Houston feels like some sort of kludge to me. Does anyone know what rares include, other than rubber? Do they include strategic metals, or are they included in metal?

While we're at it, can anyone tell me what happened to the nickel mines in Petsamo?
 

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Ex Mudder said:
I was looking through the territorial statistics as Germany with the whole map revealed... and I discovered that Houston, in additon to 5 ICs, 5 energy, 3 metal, and 54 oil, has 91 rares, the most of any province in the game.

Can someone who knows about Houston's contributions to the war effort - or someone from Paradox - explain this? I always thought it odd that the US started out with a surplus of rares, as it was the loss of Malaysia (27 rares each in the 4 provinces north of Singapore, and 28 in Aingapore proper) that really put a dent in the US rubber supply.

I'd prefer that rares were spread out more evenly amoung various minors, so they'd have more to trade. 91 rare materials in Houston feels like some sort of kludge to me. Does anyone know what rares include, other than rubber? Do they include strategic metals, or are they included in metal?

While we're at it, can anyone tell me what happened to the nickel mines in Petsamo?
IIRC rares also include rare metals and other things that are quite, uhm, rare which makes it a valuable resource especially for germany which hadn't much of them.
 

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Ex Mudder said:
I was looking through the territorial statistics as Germany with the whole map revealed... and I discovered that Houston, in additon to 5 ICs, 5 energy, 3 metal, and 54 oil, has 91 rares, the most of any province in the game.

Can someone who knows about Houston's contributions to the war effort - or someone from Paradox - explain this? I always thought it odd that the US started out with a surplus of rares, as it was the loss of Malaysia (27 rares each in the 4 provinces north of Singapore, and 28 in Aingapore proper) that really put a dent in the US rubber supply.

I'd prefer that rares were spread out more evenly amoung various minors, so they'd have more to trade. 91 rare materials in Houston feels like some sort of kludge to me. Does anyone know what rares include, other than rubber? Do they include strategic metals, or are they included in metal?

While we're at it, can anyone tell me what happened to the nickel mines in Petsamo?

I don’t think the map released in the demo is not the final map. If you look at the Chinese provinces most categories are all at zero. As far as Houston’s rare material’s goes the only thing I can think of is the large number of refineries (that could produce other petroleum based products like plastic, nylon and such) in the Houston province. AFAIK Texas was the world’s largest producer of oil in the 1940’s. So maybe they factored that in I don’t know.
 

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Personally I believe the high rare materials number represents the Houston Texans Cheerleaders (American Football Team for Houston. PS The Texans should receive the award for the world’s most unimaginative name for a professional sports team.)
 

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Micah Goodman 2 said:
Personally I believe the high rare materials number represents the Houston Texans Cheerleaders (American Football Team for Houston. PS The Texans should receive the award for the world’s most unimaginative name for a professional sports team.)

Houston is very high in a number of rare materials.

1) Big hats.
2) Bushes.
3) Shrubs.
 

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Actually Houston is heavily wooded. Sense they are Texas trees that is why the rare minerals rating is so high. :)
 

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Vulture said:
Who is the Big Mean Betazoid (BMB) in here eh? :)
Is he the one AKA He Who Commands (HWC)? :)
 

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Vulture said:
Who is the Big Mean Betazoid (BMB) in here eh? :)

I can assure you there are none of the infidel sulphur mines in Houston. None at all!

More importantly, sulphur's only uses are to do with rubber vulcanisation and explosives manufacture.

How can you claim these have a significant impact on a World War II strategic simulation???

Hats, I tell you. Hats.

;)
 

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Just about the only thing that I can think of that Houston was really unique for at this point is oil field equipment, ie drill bits, seismic equipment, wirelining equipment, etc. But I am not sure if that qualifies as rare materials.
 

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Zorgoth said:
Just about the only thing that I can think of that Houston was really unique for at this point is oil field equipment, ie drill bits, seismic equipment, wirelining equipment, etc. But I am not sure if that qualifies as rare materials.
Well, the miserable lack of drilling expertise and equipment on the part of the Japanese meant that the Southern Resource Area's production plummeted to a third of what it was pre-war and never returned to peacetime production levels.
 

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Zorgoth said:
Just about the only thing that I can think of that Houston was really unique for at this point is oil field equipment, ie drill bits, seismic equipment, wirelining equipment, etc. But I am not sure if that qualifies as rare materials.
Well that and that they produced about 80% of global sulfur production in the 1930s-1940s