78% of Soviet tank fleet 1/1/1936 missing from HoI4

78% of Soviet tank fleet 1/1/1936 missing from HoI4

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It crushed the myth of invinceble German Armour
The invincible german tanks 1 to 4 with a frontal armor from 13mm (Pz1) up to 50mm (Pz4 F1)
That is everything but not invincible.

The myth of the "invinible" german armor startet with the Tiger 1942.
 

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The invincible german tanks 1 to 4 with a frontal armor from 13mm (Pz1) up to 50mm (Pz4 F1)
That is everything but not invincible.

The myth of the "invinible" german armor startet with the Tiger 1942.
Tell that to the poles, french, dutch and the soviets in June/july 41...
 
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Haha, I knew the moment I started reading this thread that it would devolve into a discussion of the relative merits of different models of tank.

It's like a universal law of military history nerd discussions.
 
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The tactic of combined arms and Bewegungskrieg was superior. Not the tanks.

That was the point of Guderians quote.
I think you are misinterpreting here. Guderian:"Zum ersten Male zeigte sich die Überlegenheit des russischen T 34 in krasser Form."
"...superiority of T34..." The man in his own words.

The high command, the father of the Panzerwaffe, were concerned that their mainline tanks were vastly inferior to soviet designs. When Wehrmacht units encountered T34 or KV tanks en masse, they were on the backfoot. German training and communications usually saved the day, but the tanks as weapon systems proved much less effective.

That's why the Panzerkommission reacted by not only upgunning the support Tank, Panzer IV, but also by creating a Tank 1.5 the weight of the T34 with some of its features, the Panther.
 
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