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Eh, seems too much like a mirror to OTL for my tastes, really.
 

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Isn't national populism far right?
 

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Well that's the point. Kaissereich lacks far right politcal movements and this will fill the void. I don't intend my mod to make this the only way for Russia to go, but if a players picks all the decisions in the description then a war with Germany will be the outcome.

I very much like your ideas, I'd love to see it come to life.

Just to contradict you statement that I've quoted, the whole political system is pushed to the right in Kaiserreich as Germany is Authoritarian Democrat (would be Paternal Autocrat with the same slider position in DH vanilla) and you can find the OTL national socialists and fascists like Mussolini and Oswald Mosley on the left (national syndicalists they call themselves). But an ultranationalist Russia would be fun. I wonder what you will call operation Barbarossa in this timeline when Russia attacks their arch-enemies, France. Perhaps Operation Rurikovich :p?
 

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Rurikovich - name of dinasty. Rurik himself was from Scandinavia. It's strange to call operation such name. Better will be "Operation Alexandr Nevsky" cause he defeated Teutonic order in "Battle of the Ice". Teutonic order associated with Germany :)
 

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That's a massive swastika in your 2nd post. You should remove it before a moderator bumps into it.

Rurikovich - name of dinasty. Rurik himself was from Scandinavia. It's strange to call operation such name. Better will be "Operation Alexandr Nevsky" cause he defeated Teutonic order in "Battle of the Ice". Teutonic order associated with Germany :)

I won't complain, you are the one who knows Russian history better :). Does he have a nickname like Barbarossa for Friedrich I, that would make even better.
 

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Idea of national socialist Russia believing in master Slavic race sounds interesting. And what claims would such Russia have upon world ? Every possible area where slavs lived from 5th century ? Or just Russian imperial borders + Sinkiang, Manchuria, Mongolia, Western Armenia ( Erezum, Trabzon ), Constantinople ( + Adrianople and Gelibolu ), modern day Polish borders, Slovakia, Bohemia and Moravia, Serbia, Slovenia, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Romania, Croatia ?

If you can put some work into this, it can be a nice optional addition to kaiserreich.

Just some suggestions regarding potential timeline - it would be much better to speed things a little bit- elections in which russian fascist gained about 35-40 % were around 1935 ( now just you need to find some interesting crisis which would force an early election - normal elections in kaiserreich Russia are in 1932 and 1937 - 5 election term in Russia + don´t forget about division of russian parliament into duma and senate ( which consist of imporatnt member of orthodox church, noblemen + other people appointed by president - in russian kaiserreich system president is elected by senate ). Next you can let assasination of kerensky happen like in normal timeline just with slight twist - add option that he survives, political crisis occurs and under pressure from right wing parties and organizations appoints Konstantiv Rodzaevsky as HoG on 30 january of 1936

And by the way Konstantin Rodzaevsky is already present in kaiserreich as potential HoG of Russian puppet - Manchuria.
 

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Fascism was founded by the Italian Benito Mussolini, the movement's name derived from a Latin term. Consequently, in Kaiserreich, a mass movement combining right and left-wing aspects founded in Russia would not be named Fascist. I mean, why use a term derived from the rival Latin language when your country supposedly represents the Third Rome and the Cyrillic world?

Secondly, Wrangel already has an event chain for donning the title of Vozhd and reign as a national populist Führer-esque head of state.

Besides that, Qing aiding their "Asian brothers" seems rather ASB. I don't even think Alash Orda and Turkestan would be considered anything but far, far, far away kinds of cousins (whom they'd rather not have anything to do with) within the Sino-Qing ethnographic spectrum.
 

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as Milites said the word "fascist" is wrong as the fascists never existed in the kaiserreich story, also there is already a tsar and a like hitler scenario for russia, i think that epxanding the current( like alliance with the syndicalists and/or Balkanians, Greece) is prefered than creating a new scenario
 

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Fascism was founded by the Italian Benito Mussolini, the movement's name derived from a Latin term. Consequently, in Kaiserreich, a mass movement combining right and left-wing aspects founded in Russia would not be named Fascist. I mean, why use a term derived from the rival Latin language when your country supposedly represents the Third Rome and the Cyrillic world?

Secondly, Wrangel already has an event chain for donning the title of Vozhd and reign as a national populist Führer-esque head of state.

Besides that, Qing aiding their "Asian brothers" seems rather ASB. I don't even think Alash Orda and Turkestan would be considered anything but far, far, far away kinds of cousins (whom they'd rather not have anything to do with) within the Sino-Qing ethnographic spectrum.

This kinda sums up everything I was going to say. :)
 

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well seeming there's pretty much 0 interest in this mod I won't waste my time making it :)

There are interest, but you need to "Kaiserreichify" it, and perheps it could be added into normal KR if done properly. :)
 

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well seeming there's pretty much 0 interest in this mod I won't waste my time making it :)

Hey JozefKPilsudski!

You should make the mod if you want to. If you get fun and enjoyment from it, you should continue. Why not?

Don't let yourself be pressured by others.

Certainly if you have an aim to put it into a senior mod, then yes, you should listen and get their advice.
.. But, if you really feel your mod needs to go in a totally different, even if ahistorical direction, then just go ahead and do it.

Just Be!
 

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You're on to the right track, that's for sure. My personal favourite kind of alternate history is the one with loads of convergence.
 

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well seeming there's pretty much 0 interest in this mod I won't waste my time making it :)

I for one support you. You should continue.

There are interest, but you need to "Kaiserreichify" it, and perheps it could be added into normal KR if done properly. :)

Wow, is "Kaiserreichify" a verb :p? Then it should be lower-case :p...
 

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