6 nations struggle for power. Multi country SP game.

[Chopain]

Greetings to all!

I am starting this AAR as I thought that this game may turn out to be very interesting.

The powers are Muscovy, England, Ottoman Empire, Austria, France and Spain. Starting in the year 1492.

I will spend 5.5 years with each county in the order that I have displayed them above. I will play each county with its best interest in mind. I will wait for an entire rotaion of the 6 nations before reporting on the situation.

Some rules I've made.
Countries will go to war over gaining their core provinces. I will not modify the DP sliders. The size of the armies and navies will be porportiante to the size of their suportable limits. So Russia will have a large army while Austria will not. Spain will go after the TOT area with force. France will go after Canada and England the US area. If the AI goes into the other nations area of influence the nation I am playing will most likely go to war with the other. With research in mind I am putting half of the research in trade for each nation and then I use the rest for my personal interest with each nation. Unless in desperate times research will not be put into minting coins. Each nations will be allowed to build one manufactory of each kind and only in a province which allows the ducat bouns.

Most of this will be postings of facts and of what each nation is thinking. I will also sumarize what the ai has done since last playing the nation in question. Hopefully my storytelling ability will grow as I do my postings.

Warning to the wise. My spelling is real bad.

Edits: Edits are to add new rules I come up with.

 

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it sounds great!

as for the spelling, you might want to type the whole thing out in a word processor, and then copy and paste it over.

Another tip... we need a better title

Something that reflects what your attempting...

6 countries right?

"Sixpack gone wrong?"

I dunno... just thinking outloud... plus I am still sobering up

 

[Chopain]

Originally posted by Lord Joseph
it sounds great!

as for the spelling, you might want to type the whole thing out in a word processor, and then copy and paste it over.

Another tip... we need a better title

Something that reflects what your attempting...

6 countries right?

"Sixpack gone wrong?"

I dunno... just thinking outloud... plus I am still sobering up

Yeah it took me forever just to come up with that title. Like I said I hope my story telling ability grows.

 

[Chopain]

The time: January 1, 1492 - June 30, 1497

Country: Muscovy

Court of Ivan III Veliky
King: Ahh, my new advisor. Welcome Zach. What advice do you bring me today?

me: Sir your armies are getting impatient. Our coffers can barely afford the upkeep on your soldiers.

Ivan: What do you propose?

me: I think we should go to war!

Ivan: Why would I want to do that!? We are a peacefull nation. The only land that I belive should be ours is held by our allies!

me: Well we need your armies to be keept occupied. You don't want our great army leaders to turn against you in boredom do you?
(later that day the Tutonic order dow's upon Pscov). I sugest we start a war with Kazan and tell our allies we can not help them against the Tutonic Order because of the huge armies of Kazan! Then when the Tutonic Order annexes Pskov then we have our chance to add Pskov along with a chunk of Kazan to your nation.

Ivan: That does not sound honourable. It is better then our leaders turning against us though. Ok.

The surrondings.
Denmark DOW'd against the TO and took many provinces which make taking Pskov (after I left Muscovy nation) an easy task. Half of Kazan also falls.

My thoughts:
Kazan was at war with the Horde so I thought that would be my best chance to go to war with them. Even though I had a huge army I ended up with having only a fith left over after the war. After I left Muscovy they later annexed my other ally, Ryazan. I also colonized my TP's.

 

[Chopain]

The time: July 1, 1497 - December 30, 1502

Country: England

Court of Henry VII

me: Your lordship I don't mean to be rude but how on earth could you let Eire reform!

Henry: Your lucky were out of axes right now but we do have enough rope to hang you by!

Me: Ahhh sorry. Anyway I think you should take a task force into Eire and take one of their provinces so you may annex it later. Also I have heard that Bravehearts great grandson is causing problems in Scotland! You must take care of them.

Henry: Uh oh, you give good advise. We shall go after Eire and Scotland.

me: Also I see you have an explorer I have a sugestion on the direction for him to sail to. Go west!

The surrondings:
Eire and Scotand were both reduced to one province. Part of the east coast was colonized. Mostly TP's (England is very poor) and a colony here and there. England has not bumbed into any other nations in the new world yet but has heard that the Spainsh are to the south. At this time in France they have just annexed two nations in Italy. The Scandinavian nations are beating up on the Germans.

My thoughts:
When I left England I was really mad that the Papal states annexed Eire! Then later Eire reformed a 2nd time from England! When I first took England Colbert was just sitting off the coast of England. When I checked on him he said that he was sitting there for 6 months! I knew that with his limited life span that I better discover something really fast. With as poor a nation as England I was also dismayed to see that they had 80k troops scattered all over England wasting the English budget. That is one of the reasons I chosed to attack Scotland.

 

[Chopain]

The time: January 1, 1503- July 30, 1508

Country: The Ottoman Emipire

(I added in all of the national shields in the game for OE as it will not be fixed until 1.6)

Court of Bayezid II

me: I see you have done well as you have annexed many smaller nations Ragusa, Wallachia, and even some muslim nations.

Bayezid: Yes that is correct as all shall fall to the great empire.

me: Yes but I noticed that the size of your army is really small! Plus we are muslim but many of your provinces practice many different nations. I advise sending a missionarly to Ragusa as they are the only catholic province in your empire.

Bayezid: great idea. Missionaries is one thing we have tons of.

me: Since we have such a small army there is not much we can do with my limited time I have with you. I suggest attacking Ak Koyunlu and Moldova as they hold lands that should be ours! Also start producing soldiers!

The surrondings:
Persia has gained Nuyssaybin and the OE does not have a route to the rest of Persia to gain a victory large enough to take it.

My thoughts:
I annexed Moldova. The war with Ak Koyunlu went well but I left the OE before peace so the OE settled for only a province. The one with the gold mine. Currently in 1525 Ak Koyunlu are getting beat up by Persia so for me to get Ak Koyunlus provinces later I will probaly have to go to war with Persia to get it. The OE have been in many wars and Hungry and OE are fighting to a stallmate. When I take over again I will have to decide who to attack next. I much rather make my way to Egypt then to go west. If I go west I would then face Austria sooner then later. When I take over Austria I'm sure I can kick OE butt. So that is the main reason I want my south east possesions first so the Ottoman Empire will be stronger when they face Hungry, Austria, and Venice.

 

[Chopain]

The time August 1, 1508 - December 30, 1513

The country of Austria

Court of Maximilian I

Max: Welcome Zach! Welcome to our stable and rich country. I hereby give you our balance of 1700 ducats to do as you will.

me: Great! Lets build taxcollectors in Austria but not anywhere else.

Max: Nowhere else?

me: I just have this funny feeling like we should leave developing the Dutch provinces to others. I also suggest invading Geldre as we have a claim over it.

me: Ahhhh we need military access with Venice.

Max: Why?

me: Because your huge fleet off the coast of Italy will never make it back to a Dutch port without losses.

me: Annex Bohemia peacefully.

The surrondings:
Nothing really exciting hapened here.

My thoughts:
Really boring here. I just worked on sending merchants and building tax collectors. I annexed Geldre but thats about it. Maybe I shouldn't have annexed Bohemia but I didn't feel like figuring the odds out that they would choose to be annexed in the inheritance event. I decided to have great relations with the Germans but am not going to Diplo annex them all. I feel that diploannexing should only occure in events. Plus it makes it too easy for Austria to come on top. Austria also had the most money out of the 6 I'm playing. I was kind of surprised.

 

[Chopain]

The time January 1, 1514 - June 30 1519

The country of France

The court of Louis the XII and then François I

Louis: Yes Zach what do you want.

me: I know ways to make you even more powerfull then your victories in Italy.

Louis: Do tell! I could always use more victories.

me: To England! Everyone has been talking about us winning the Hundered Years War but it is not true! England just says that so we don't notice that they still own Calis! To arms!

Enters military leader: King Louis I bring grave news. We have just loss 4000 ducats worth of cannon! They were marching alone from Paris to Calis and 100 cannon were ambused in Picardie inroute by 1000 infantry men.

Me: (Sneaks out of the throne room)

(after the quick victories over England François I rose to the throne)

François I: You have brought great victories to our kingdom. Do you have any advice for me?

me: Yes. Austria owns French lands! Go to war and take Artios and Franche Comte.

The surrondings:
France now owns all of its national provinces. Papal States annexes Eire. Brandenburg grabs a port. The Scandinavians keep picking on Prussia, and Brandenburg. The TO is not around anymore as Denmark took their 2 most northern provinces and Prussia taking Courland. Sweden has also taken Memml from Prussia. Muscovy, Denmark, and Sweden have entered a strong alliance. Muscovy is now sucessfully sieging Brandenburg.

My thoughts,
Well I like the fact that Muscovy does not have to worry about attacks from Sweden but I do not know what I'm gonna do with a german province if they are offered land with Brandenburg. With France I almost decided to let England own Calis forever just for the CB on them. I figured that that would be dishonest. The war with Austria was real easy and now they are not the Emperor anymore so later wars with Austria should not be hard. France this far is way ahead in the trade war. They are bringing in 36 ducats a month into research while other nations are in the teens. My next time around will probaly be to colonize Canada and build maybe a refinary.

Edit: Spain owns 1 national province of Frances. I'll have to remedy that.

 

[Chopain]

The time July 1, 1519 - Dec 30, 1524

The country of Spain

The court of Carlos I

me: King Carlos congradulations on you discovering so many distant lands!

Carlos: Oh you flatter me. Keep going.

me: I recomend further colonization of the new world. Since your budget is slim we should build mainly Trade Posts as they are very cheap. I've noticed the Aztecs own lots of gold. We must go to war right away!

navy advisor enters the throne room: Sire our navies have ran out of food! They must all run to the nearest port as soon as possible!

Carlos: Zach make it so.

me:

(after the conquest of the Aztecs)

me: Sire the gold has brought our inflation rate to .52 percent without even minting coins. I suggest that we conquer more lands to bring down the inflation impact. Conquer the Mayans! (left Spain before peace was settled with the Mayans with only their capital left under Mayan contorl.)

The surrondings:
The Scandinavians are still at war with the north west Germans.
Almost all of the new world TOT area has at least has a Spainish trading post in it. The Spainish ai has also colonized much of the Pacific coast of the Americas. The Ottoman Empire is in another war with Hungry which looks like there is no obvious winer. A COT has poped up in Ensenada.

My thoughts:
While I know that Spain will win the war with the Mayans the Spanish army is getting thin. The Aztec provinces revolt risk is at 10 percent wich in turn rusults in Spainish losses. Spain will have to rebuild their army up before I get back to France because France might just go to war over Roussillon. I have also discoved that when I "leap" into a country I better hurray up and send all the navies into a port. I have not yet decided if I should build and place a gally in every province in the new world or not. I feel like it would be kind of cheating.

 

[Chopain]

Well with my first rotation complete here are the top 7 VP nations.

1) Spain 432
2) OE 345
3) France 336
4) China 325
5) Austria 316
6) Portugal 261
7) The Palatinat 167

I have know idea why The Palatinat is on this list! I will have to check.

Hmmm, seems like I need to get my butt in gear and get England and Muscovy on that list.

 

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Good job so far Chopain, it made for an interesting read. It's good to know that someone in are clan can write AAR's if we decide to do one on our game Keep up the goodwork!

 

[Chopain]

Oh boy! This is the most crazy game I have ever played. I'll have a lot to report on Monday as I am almost done with my second rotation. Lots of land changeing hands and some victories and many defeats and stab problems for me!. I think most of the nations do better when I'm not playing them. Very interesting.

 

[Apebe]

Originally posted by Chopain
I think most of the nations do better when I'm not playing them. Very interesting.

great ! So 5 Nations grow while 1 doesn't. Many economists would like to have thatin RL.

 

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Interesting idea for an aar. Looks good so far.

Since you brought up spelling errors, I feel I must point out that honorable is not spelled with a u in Wisconsin.

 

[Chopain]

Originally posted by Eddie Teach
Interesting idea for an aar. Looks good so far.

Since you brought up spelling errors, I feel I must point out that honorable is not spelled with a u in Wisconsin.

In defense of my buddy Dan Quale I tend to spell things a little different. POTATOE

 

[Chopain]

The time January 1, 1525 - June 30, 1530

The country of Russia

The court of Vasily III

me: Oh great leader I see you have expanded at the expense of the Golden Horde. Well done! I see your economy is on the down side. I hereby promote tax collectors in every province!

Vasily: Great idea our economy will improve greatly! Since you have just imporved the economy I sugest you build an army since we have 8k troops and at war with Prussia, Brandenburg, Prussia, Poland, Lith (sp), and some other little minor nations.

me: Ahh build troops? I just spent all of your ducats!

Military advisor enters: King! Our recent peace deal with one of those little minor nations upset our allies Denmark and Sweden and they have now declared war on us! We are now only left with Holstien as an ally.

(Vasily looks at me and grunts)

Me: I sugest we start bribeing our enemies with peace deals. Ofcourse we have to wait untill we have money first.

(Vasily gets out his check book)

The surrondings:
Most of Eastern Europe is at war with each other. Multipule wars at that. England gained a COT while Austria inherited Hungry. No lands really switched hands as everyone was getting beat up equaly

My thoughts:
First thing: check to see if I'm at war. Second thing: send fleets to port. Not too much for Russia. Muscovy turned into Russia while I was away. I figured that since I was at war with the German nations that it wouldn't be too hard to get white peaces with them. Then I focused on Poland/Lith. I gained a white peace with Poland but the other would not bulge. Then my 2 allies DOW'd me! I have no idea how but when I tried to find out how they DOW'd me all I could find was that I had now a tempory CB against Denmark. No matter what I did I just could not defeat Swedens high moral. I just had to keep sending in the waves of troops into the battle. Ofcourse since I spent all of their money the waves of troops were non-existant. I think I had delusions just like Hitler did when he was commanding non-existant armies from his bunker as his land was being sacked. Luckly for Russia they eventualy gained peace.

 

[Chopain]

The time July 1, 1530 - December 30, 1535

The country of England

The court of HenryVIII

Henry: Off with her head! (clears throat for he had stuffed too much food in his mouth)

Advisor: I am surprised your letting your wife off the hook (rope). I have sent for an expert from France that will do the beheading.

me: (Enters) King Henry I suggest we finaly take over the Irish island by kicking out the Papal States and annexing Eire! I also sugest us doing it quickly before Eire forms for a third time and before their ally France comes after us.

Henry: Hang her!

Advisor: You want us to hang your new wife?

Henry: Yes she is not worthy of the axe. I'm getting tired of all of this no divorce crap. I am now in charge of the Church of England! Lets vandalize the catholic churches and add the gold into our tresury!

me: Great idea. With this money we can colonize and build armies to put down all of the revolters that now swarm the countryside.

The surrondings:
The Ottoman Empire pays 423 to Austria for peace. Poland gave up the provinces of Danzig and Pozan to Brandenburg. England converts to Protestant after finaly claiming the entire Irish island and gaining 1000 ducats from the conversion. English colonies: All of east coast NA above Florida minus all natives and Coneticut.

My thoughts:
I forgot that when Mary comes around that England would just change religion again. England has not gotten out of the negative stab dump until I was well into the 1550's. Pretty depressing. The entire time I was playing other countries I was thinking. "If Eire reforms for a third time I'm gonna *#^@*($ throw my computer out the window" Scotland still has only one province. Later on when I was Spain I had a RM with England so I was able to watch them mishandle all of their revolts. Then they must have gotten an event 'cause their stab jumped to +3. The only thing I didnt understand was that they kept declaring war on natives when they were at -3 stab. I thought the game doesn't let you DOW if your stab was that low.

 

[Chopain]

The time Jaunuary 1, 1536 - June 30, 1541

The Ottoman Empire

The court of Süleymân I Kanuni

Süleymân: We must expand! Zach start the call for war. I want to crush the Mameluks!

me: Great. Thats what I was thinking.

(report from the front)

Military advisor: Lord, we are taking land land from the Mameluks despite high causualties. They have large quanties of calvery and they are giving it to us whenever we start to besige their forts.

(captain of the home militia enters in running)

Captain: Süleymân, Austria has seen our weekness on their front and is now invading!

me: Our armies and our ducats are thin. Their armies are huge and they are carrying what one prisoner calls "muskets"

Süleymân: Try to bring the war to a draw but give them what they want if they persist.

The surrondings:
Modova passes on to Austria after the war with the OE. Venice gives the Papal States Dalmatia, Mantua. (Later Dalmatia revolts to the OE).

My thoughts:
I couldn't do anything against Austria as they were steamrolling over me. So I gave them Moldova. I didn't really mind giving it up. I know that the OE would be stronger after the war with the Mameluks. When I left I had a 96 percent victory over the Mameluks. I knew that they would give the OE a good peace deal after I left since they were at a -3 stab. I couldn't get the provinces I wanted from my peace deals.

 

[Chopain]

The time July 1, 1541 - December 30, 1546

The country of Austria

The court of Karl V

me: Your lordship your reputation is horrible! The courts of europe are unhappy with your annexing of Bavaria, and Heltiva. If you really do anything else all of the nations bodering us will attack.

Karl V: What do you sugest?

me: Just concentrate on trade and infrastructure. Oh send out the missonaries. We need to get rid of those Protestants.

The surrondings:
Alexandria, Aleppo, Samaria, Sinai, Lebnon, Quattara, and Juden to the Ottoman Empire. Russia gains Ufa, Saratow, Samara from the Golden Horde.

My thoughts:
It seems like thes countries tend to get the good peace deals when I'm not around. Oh well, we'll see about that. I'd say that Austria is doing very well with their economic research. They are a very strong nation. Austria isn't turning out to be that much fun to play as the ai has done everything already to make it a great power.

 

[Chopain]

The time January 1, 1547 - June 30, 1552

The country of France

The court of Henri II

Henri: Zach as you can see Austria has just declared war on us. I have no idea. Must be over Artios.

me: I'll take of it. (sacks the Dutch area) The Austrians have offerd 250 ducats. I sugest we take it.

Henri. Now since we have showed Europe how powerfull we are lets get Roussillon from Spain.

me: Great. Our plan should be this. Send infantry into the moutains and send the calvery into the plains. Their manpower is no match for us.

Henri: I'm loosing patients something must be done. Spain and Portugal is killing us. Yes we have taken Roussillon but we are no match against their high moral.

me: I don't know what is wrong. We are more advance then them and we out number them.

Military advisor: 4 thousand inf just deafeated our mix army of 17 thousand troops and Portugal is now invading France in force and Spain is sending out small detachments to burn our southern cities.

Me: Pay Portugal off!

(after a few years Spain gives up Roussillon and the French military is in shambles)

The surrondings:
Austria annexs Breman. Nothing else of note that I noticed as I was more concentrating on the great war.

My thoughts:
I had no idea that Spain would just crush me left and right in the fire phase. I felt like I was in a different tech group having to send in vollies of troops into the battle. I later found out as I played Spain next that they were on the verge of collopes (+14 WE) Well France now has all of its shields and is now going to focus on becoming a super power. Next time around I'm gonna buff up their trade income. As that is their only weekness right now. (gaining 17 to trade each month in research)