50% Battle Score cap for crusades should be removed.

[X_FloW]

I'm stuck in a crusade because they've reached 50% max battle score cap and 20% from sieges, the armies are basically just following each other tirelessly while ignoring forts for decades and the crusade won't end.

This is an issue because half decisions are blocked by being in a war, as well as army maintenance and other stuff

 

[X_FloW]

 

[prismaticmarcus]

well, besiege something

 

[X_FloW]

well, besiege something

with the armies wandering around, i cant stay 6 months stationary in one place while the enemy 10k is walking by, i don't get helped by allies when i get wiped out by the enemy

 

[prismaticmarcus]

with the armies wandering around, i cant stay 6 months stationary in one place while the enemy 10k is walking by, i don't get helped by allies when i get wiped out by the enemy

but it all adds to your war contribution, which comprises sieges and fatalities

 

[X_FloW]

but it all adds to your war contribution, which comprises sieges and fatalities

i know but whats the point of war contribution if the war itself is never ending and is stuck in a loop of battles?

 

[prismaticmarcus]

i know but whats the point of war contribution if the war itself is never ending and is stuck in a loop of battles?

you win stuff for a relative

 

[Rubidium]

The OP's argument isn't that they want the Crusade to end so they can reap the rewards; it's that they want the Crusade to end so they can do all the stuff that is normally blocked by being at war. Everything that has an "[X] At Peace" requirement.

More broadly, the real issue is that the AI has no idea what gives war score, and thus can't end wars regularly. Which is a problem not just for the player, but for the AI as well (bankruptcy and at-war opinion maluses build up, although the latter isn't an issue for Crusades, at least).

 

[prismaticmarcus]

the real issue is that the AI has no idea what gives war score

a dev recently said that it does

 

[void0x00]

so the case is:
the winning party keep the war forever as they just enjoying wonder around and destory your army, but never conquest the land
and you can't surrender since you are not the target of the war?

then it can be a problem for all war, did the hold objective score ticking?

 

[Rubidium]

a dev recently said that it does

Then it certainly doesn't act on that knowledge.

It will regularly besiege targets that don't belong to the primary participant (thus not giving any war score by definition). It will march back and forth, avoiding actually completing a siege that would give war score, and ignore the primary war target in favor of less valuable sieges. It won't prioritize besieging or unsieging the primary war target even when that would give/stop ticking war score. And its behavior during coalition wars can be best described as a giant mess.

 

[X_FloW]

you win stuff for a relative

read the second half of the sentence please

i know but whats the point of war contribution if the war itself is never ending and is stuck in a loop of battles?

 

[prismaticmarcus]

read the second half of the sentence please

all wars end

 

[X_FloW]

all wars end

not quite fun if a crusade lasts 100 years is it

 

[prismaticmarcus]

not quite fun if a crusade lasts 100 years is it

not that i'm suggesting the devs do anything to prolong them, but that would be awesome. truly epic. i lerv long wars in stellaris.

 

[X_FloW]

not that i'm suggesting the devs do anything to prolong them, but that would be awesome. truly epic. i lerv long wars in stellaris.

i never played sterallis idk how ai handles wars but idc as long as i can do my decisions, half of them are blocked by being at war and i cant do anything about it

 

[prismaticmarcus]

i never played sterallis idk how ai handles wars but idc as long as i can do my decisions, half of them are blocked by being at war and i cant do anything about it

are there any in particular that bother you?

 

[X_FloW]

are there any in particular that bother you?

you mean decisions?

the simplest and most important one being pilgrimage decision

 

[prismaticmarcus]

you mean decisions?

the simplest and most important one being pilgrimage decision

make a post in 'suggestions'

 

[X_FloW]

make a post in 'suggestions'

nah i wanna make it here in general discussion to have a discussion with the community