50 AE for taking one province?

[Jay916]

Is that WAD? Because I did that as Tuscany, I conquered Siena. I had a CB, and when I annexed them it said I would gain 11AE but I checked my neighbors and I have anywhere between 35-50 AE and they are all in a coalition against me. Is that how things are supposed to happen? Also, does a Coalition dissolve after a certain amount of time or as my AE goes down?

 

[StatikShocker]

that tooltip has never been accurate

 

[delpiero1234]

50 AE for one province is normal in 1.5.
Of course it's totally insane but you can thank Paradox for bringing insanely high AE back.

 

[Jay916]

that tooltip has never been accurate

Which tooltip are you referring too?

 

[aitaituo]

11.5 is the base AE.

It is increased for neighbors, same religion, same culture, same religion group, same culture group, same nation that the provinces were taken from, for rivals of the annexing nation, and for HRE Princes if the nation is also an HRE Prince.

It is decreased by distance, different religion group, different culture group, and allies/vassals of the annexing nation.

As you can see from the AE and the unlawful Imperial territory penalties, the Imperial Princes frown on illegal annexations.

 

[StatikShocker]

Which tooltip are you referring too?

peace deal one that list countries and how much AE you will get with each of them

 

[Jay916]

Good grief. Will the Coalition go away over time? Or am I stuck with it?

 

[Fede248]

Thank Paradox for their awesome updates :laugh:

 

[aitaituo]

Good grief. Will the Coalition go away over time? Or am I stuck with it?

It will go away over time and if you can manage to ally a coalition member, they'll immediately leave the coalition.

 

[StatikShocker]

Good grief. Will the Coalition go away over time? Or am I stuck with it?

hmm 916 are you from sacramento too or does that mean something else

 

[johnnyb]

Did you get caught fabricating a claim as well... I think yes.

 

[rpundurs]

50 AE for one province is normal in 1.5.
Of course it's totally insane but you can thank Paradox for bringing insanely high AE back.

I was on the verge of uninstalling anyway and that tears it. I'm sick of this nonsense.

 

[aitaituo]

I was on the verge of uninstalling anyway and that tears it. I'm sick of this nonsense.

It's only normal in the HRE. It was normal for everyone in 1.2/3.

 

[Comradebot]

You had to have gotten caught I think, I've never seen anywhere near that much from a single province (not even Lübeck in the HRE at a whopping 12 base tax gave me more than 25ish with everyone except The Hansa who I think would get 30... not that I mattered, since they ceased to exist when I annexed it).

Also, did you actually use a CB that reduces AE? You would've had to use something like a Conquest or Holy War/Cleansing of Heresy CB to get a reduction. Stuff like Trade Dispute and Diplomatic Insult will still give you full AE.

 

[bleakie]

The maximum AE of your neighbour on you for a single HRE province is 22.5 with normal difficulty and a CB that gives 75% AE. To get 50 AE, something else must have caused the extra AE.

 

[Thund91]

This is why the advisor that gives you better relations over time is op in 1.5. I cry if I don't get him as an expander.

 

[Da Biggman]

I've gotten to the point where I can't even take over a single province without a 20 country coalition jumping on me...

 

[Comradebot]

I've gotten to the point where I can't even take over a single province without a 20 country coalition jumping on me...

Then you're doing something wrong. Before you start warmongering, always remember to send out your diplomats to improve relations with as many people as you can. It was considerably easier to expand as East Frisia in the HRE as long as I constantly had all my diplomats out telling everyone how awesome I am around the clock. Only time I got a large coalition is when I got cocky and tried to take three provinces in rapid succession.

And the HRE is the only place where this seems to occur. I just took ten provinces from Persia in as many years as Khiva, and they're the only nation in a coalition against me right now. Even Kazan, my rival who borders us both, has only gotten tiny fractions of AE.

 

[clykke]

I agree the AE can sometimes be unreasonably high within the HRE, but I've managed to conquer all of Italy as Tuscany without being attacked by a coalition even once.

If you are targeted by massive coalitions, you are obviously doing something wrong. That said, I do think the mechanic needs some tweaking.

 

[milman]

50 AE for one province is imposible, even with geting cought during fabricating claim. He probably get cought several times during fabrication for several other provinces.