+4 buffed Axis getting rekt hard by non buffed Poland

[Misaka_Complex]

This is the situation in late 1939, and I haven't joined the war yet as UK. Germany is getting rekt very hard by Poland and it still wants to declare war on France..

So where are Germany's divisions? Perhaps this will straighten out the answer - Asia. Japan took the focus of pupetting all the warlords, all the Chinese dudes joined Commintern, Japan then joined Axis and the front-line in Asia is massive, but why are Germany and Italy sending troops there? They are just wasting their time on the seas going back and forth to and from asia the AI needs to stop doing this its too dumb.

Now obviously I don't need to explain what's gonna happen to the Axis army when the Royal Navy joins the war..

 

[Dalwin]

I assume tis is with historical focus off. You will never see the German AI fail to take out the Polish AI, even without +4, if historical focus is on.

 

[Misaka_Complex]

I assume tis is with historical focus off. You will never see the German AI fail to take out the Polish AI, even without +4, if historical focus is on.

Yeah its off, that's why China ceded land during the Marco Polo incident and Japan went the path of pupetting China. Still even with historical focus off its the first time that I saw AI Poland defeat AI Germany even after about 500 hours into the game. Another issue about Japan declaring war on every warlord is that it bring World Tension up to like 80+. Man the decision of AI Axis to send so many things to the Japanese front is just terrible, and even without failing hard VS Poland they also do this late game against the Soviet Union when the Siberian front opens up in Manchuria. That kinda explains why Barbarossa suddenly comes to strange halts when Japan joins the war against the Soviets.

 

[Misaka_Complex]

This is nothing new, but then Germany, despite getting rekt just declared war on Belgium..

Another interesting thing that happened is that Italy has actually pushed the French across the alps. So AI Italy had its entire army against the alps this entire time while Germany was getting rekt by Poland. Also France who just joined Commintern wants to "go with Britain"... Clearly there is a truckload of work to be done to change AI behavior in this game... as its not just Germany, Japan, UK, and the naval invasion AI.. the entire thing is just disastrous..

Oh yes and I think we all knew that this was coming.. you know, who says that you have to share a border for Germany to declare war?

 

[REDDQ]

LOL

At least you can't complain about boredom

 

[Killerrabbit]

If one looks in the AI files, the german AI has it's highest priority values for the Pacific theater, then Europe and Africa the lowest.

Which makes it hard to figure out how much this value actually affects things. An test could be to set everything except Europe to be zero.

If they still send troops anywhere else then the value is pretty much insignificant.

 

[Misaka_Complex]

If one looks in the AI files, the german AI has it's highest priority values for the Pacific theater, then Europe and Africa the lowest.

So does that mean that the devs intentionally want AI Germany to send troops to Asia instead of focusing on Europe? Why would they want to do that?

 

[DoctorDanny]

Russian bias... oh wait, wrong game.

 

[Gort11]

What mods are you using?

 

[Misaka_Complex]

What mods are you using?

No man's land, colored buttons, historical German flag, more division icons and more theater icons. I'm not using any mods that changes the AI.

 

[Meglok]

Well, even PDS has acknowledged that Germany and the Axis are playing sub-optimal in 1.3.3 for the reason listed in the latest DD. Pretty sure all of us can post pictures of epic German fails now. Hopefully 1.4 will see a dramatic improvement.

For 1.4 I'm struggling atm with trying to get soviet AI to be able to deal with the german attack. All the work SteelVolt and team has done has made Germany very strong. This stuff is an eternal balance edge

This post is from another thread. So be forewarned, Germany's day of being a paper tiger may be numbered.

 

[Bernard95]

Interesting. I haven't seen Germany fail to take Poland in quite awhile, and that's coming from a guy that always plays in the ahistorical mode. Normally they run over Poland in say 30 seconds (assuming Poland didn't cede Danzig), take out France then fold by '41 after getting naval invaded to death by the Brits.

 

[Foxador]

Interesting. I haven't seen Germany fail to take Poland in quite awhile, and that's coming from a guy that always plays in the ahistorical mode. Normally they run over Poland in say 30 seconds (assuming Poland didn't cede Danzig), take out France then fold by '41 after getting naval invaded to death by the Brits.

It probably had no troops in the area after shipping them off to china. I've had that happen before when I was playing as Japan where germany would send ALL and I mean every single one of it's troops over to "help" but it would still declare war on other nations. What happened next would be germany losing cause they had nothing left to defend themselves but they didn't seem to factor that in at all when they declared war

 

[Woolly Mammoth]

At least Hungary is making gains maybe they'll take Warsaw and bail out Germany

 

[Misaka_Complex]

I think the main problem here is that the German AI has the tendency to send troops to Asia, which they should never be doing.. and of course the problem from vanilla where the German AI declares wars on everyone despite the fact that they are losing every war..