I've noticed in IN the HRE switched ai countries constantly, and often ended up in the hands of impotent powers like the palatinate. now in my game as milan, Bohemia has had an iron fist on the HRE and has used it to expand in all directions. despite a bad rep Bohemia continues uncontested as HRE. Is think WAD?
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Because of the incredible relationship boosts the emperor gets for passing laws in the empire now he usually manages to stay in office as long as he is able to keep on gathering those points.
In my Hansa game, Bohemia held it until they went over the limit and found themselves at war with practically everyone in Europe east of France.
Austira had it momentarily until she was excommunicated, and now Burgundy's had it 3 rulers in a row. It does move around, just not as easily as before, thankfully.
Austira had it momentarily until she was excommunicated, and now Burgundy's had it 3 rulers in a row. It does move around, just not as easily as before, thankfully.
I like how the electors in EU3 pick the strongest rulers instead of relatively weak rulers which they did in reality. You can decline 50% of the wars and you still manage to sit on the throne.
Which 4.1 beta are we actually talking about? There have been 3 4.1 betas lol
Which 4.1 beta are we actually talking about? There have been 3 4.1 betas lol
For most of the EU3 period the imperial throne was practically hereditary withing the Habsburgs, who were anything but weak
For most of the EU3 period the imperial throne was practically hereditary withing the Habsburgs, who were anything but weak
I think he missed an interpunction opportunity. :rofl:
It doesn't go to silly OPM nations anymore, which is good. HRE Cleves was just silly.
In my current game as Byzantium, the Bohemian king died early and I watched in fascination as the HRE elected Naxos as emperor. They remained emperor until I annexed them a few years later. Many years later a two province Ukraine rebelled from a collapsing Lithuania and promptly got elected. So the empire was led by a Catholic tribal federation.
So, not all the silliness has gone away.
Better to make the imperial reforms progressively harder and reduce some of the HRE bonuses.
It makes sense for the HRE to settle on one powerful country for as long as that country doesn't collapse. After all, historically, the crown sat with Austria for almost all of the game's timeframe.
Hardly. The office of the HRE did suffer great fluctuations in power and prestige during the early modern period, but it was never 'dead on its feet.' The Emperors of the renaissance asserted their power against the Pope and the Princes. They were on the way to unifying the Empire, until a little thing called the Thirty Years War happened. The Habsburgs wanted a total victory, and if they'd had it, they probably would have gained, at least at first, a hereditary, Catholic empire to lead.
They didn't count, however, on Gustavian tactics and French intervention, and so, while they didn't quite 'lose' the war (To be fair, the war was so devastating that everyone lost - except perhaps the French and the wily Swedes) they lost the Empire. After that point, the Emperor was indeed a lame duck. But alas, what could have been! In exchange, though, we got the Westphalian system of nation-states, which more or less rules geopolitics to this day.
They didn't count, however, on Gustavian tactics and French intervention, and so, while they didn't quite 'lose' the war (To be fair, the war was so devastating that everyone lost - except perhaps the French and the wily Swedes) they lost the Empire. After that point, the Emperor was indeed a lame duck. But alas, what could have been! In exchange, though, we got the Westphalian system of nation-states, which more or less rules geopolitics to this day.
I think thats dead on! If someone wants to be HRE they cant rampage across half of europe swallowing opms and expect to be beloved by the next election.
I don't think that'd work from a gameplay perspective - it might have the counterproductive effect of ruining a successful emperor's chances of re-election, as they'd collect BB in their success.
While I agree I do think some restrictions should be placed on expansion of the HRE itself. I can't see any circumstances were an outside monarch would want to willingly join the HRE even in 1399. Certainly it seems less likely the closer to the end of the game you get.
In fact as it didn't happen at all in real life I see no reason for the extensive expansion of the HRE that seem to happen in most games (as long as the emperor isn't human as that has been added as a trigger in the beta patches).
Grand expansion of the HRE before it's unified should certainly make all attempts to centralize the empire much harder as well.
HRE is fragile though.. If anyone wants to, they can quickly destroy a century of hre progress..
In my current game, the four eastern (novgorod, ottomans, muscowy & poland) players decided to teach the big strong HRE led by Bohemia, with 2 reforms left a lesson... So they attacked and blitzed him, dismantling the empire as it was without electors.
In my current game, the four eastern (novgorod, ottomans, muscowy & poland) players decided to teach the big strong HRE led by Bohemia, with 2 reforms left a lesson... So they attacked and blitzed him, dismantling the empire as it was without electors.
The idea behind HRE is one strong state that protects the others, not to make the current HRE a huge blob at the expense of small HRE nations.
I think that increase in infamy penalty and a tweak for the AI (big HRE countries start bribing electors and generally strive for the throne) should be good enough. Also AI HRE should learn how to use imperial CBs. The 4th reform should be nerfed to 10% or 20% bonus tax, but the next one should be buffed (the mil. tradition drain si just too much)
Also current HRE should look take new HRE provinces more easily, except if they are capital provinces, where the current managemen works OK
I think that increase in infamy penalty and a tweak for the AI (big HRE countries start bribing electors and generally strive for the throne) should be good enough. Also AI HRE should learn how to use imperial CBs. The 4th reform should be nerfed to 10% or 20% bonus tax, but the next one should be buffed (the mil. tradition drain si just too much)
Also current HRE should look take new HRE provinces more easily, except if they are capital provinces, where the current managemen works OK