3rd Armored Division balance thread
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Well, considering how much better armored its turret was than the Tiger II (P) I would say that this is justified.
However, I agree that I would prefer to see less prevalent Jumbos and more common Shermans, this could mainly be aided by the following: +1 AP, +1 ACC for 76.2mm Shermans, +1 HE, +1 AP (M4A1) for the Sherman 75mm. If it is still needed, further price buffs could be warranted.
you dont really want to touch the ap for the sherman 75, since it'll wrek the piv too hard
The M4A1, which has 10 AP, should have 11 AP like the other 75mm Shermans.
I think it's ammo quality and a way to add variety to the game.
dat bias tho
I think prices for similar units differ among divisions to show that they had more of something or had better access to something. But that's just me spitballing I don't really know
What ammunition quality though? Almost all ammunition within this time-frame was the same for the 75mm weapons, thus, they should have the same AP in the game.
Probably because it is Phase B
I was waiting for this. I'm going with the assumption that the M4A1 is "using" the ammo that was used when it first rolled off the line and the later models get the ammo used when they were first used. I know it's dumb but it's the only reason I can think of right now.
Edit: Actually it looks like they got some sort of mutant Sherman that is only priced up against the PzIV's in the deck to make the Beute Sherman attractive.
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Honestly i hope the French prices for American vehicles is what the American ones are gonna change to. 85/65 points for something US has to pay 100 for the M8? Shermans prices of all variants aside from the OP and 76. Honestly the prices dont need to be differant if the income is differant already. American decks should be the decks you pick to use American vehicles.
An M4A3(75)w is +10 points more than one minute's income in C for 3rd AD, while Char M4A3(75) is +25 one minute's for 2e DB. Char M4A3(75) is actually more expensive.
They do if they want to make a specific unit more/less attractive without making everything in the division more/less expensive.
They do if they want to make a specific unit more/less attractive without making everything in the division more/less expensive.
I'm not sure why eugen is trying to make sherman 75s in 3AD unattractive.
Since it's more expensive in 2e DB, you should be asking why are they trying to make it unattractive there.
Get your flank on boyos: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...erse-times-and-hull-turn-times.1014856/page-5
+ don't forget the sped up Sherman aim time from stabilizers.
+ don't forget the sped up Sherman aim time from stabilizers.
Yea income matters but if the games capped off at 30 minutes 3rd Armored makes less points overall 40 minutes 3rd Armored makes a slightly bit more
when going from phase B to C it still has the income from phase B and the last batch of income isnt usable so the last tick of income isnt counted as you cant use it.
3rd makes 650 points in phase A 1050 in B 1200 in C in a 30 minute game 2900 total points at the end of the game.
2e DB makes 1050 points in phase A 1100 in B 920 in C in a 30 minute game 3070 total points at the end of the game.
Sure 40 minute games 3rd will make a slight bit more overall and if the game lasts about 60 minutes it doesnt matter as you can buy both whole decks at around the 60 minute mark.
Aside from the 76 all the other vehicles are cheaper and has higher per card availability then there American counter parts the country of origin for 95% of the equipment in the deck.
so honestly in my opinion (and i know opinions dont really matter) its stupid for the exact same vehicle priced differantly in 2 differant decks when already there is a income differance aswell units should have a global price and Division income should be a balancing factor.
Also M4 OP is 2 per card compared to the 3rd AR and 2nd inf 1 per card.
when going from phase B to C it still has the income from phase B and the last batch of income isnt usable so the last tick of income isnt counted as you cant use it.
3rd makes 650 points in phase A 1050 in B 1200 in C in a 30 minute game 2900 total points at the end of the game.
2e DB makes 1050 points in phase A 1100 in B 920 in C in a 30 minute game 3070 total points at the end of the game.
Sure 40 minute games 3rd will make a slight bit more overall and if the game lasts about 60 minutes it doesnt matter as you can buy both whole decks at around the 60 minute mark.
Aside from the 76 all the other vehicles are cheaper and has higher per card availability then there American counter parts the country of origin for 95% of the equipment in the deck.
so honestly in my opinion (and i know opinions dont really matter) its stupid for the exact same vehicle priced differantly in 2 differant decks when already there is a income differance aswell units should have a global price and Division income should be a balancing factor.
Also M4 OP is 2 per card compared to the 3rd AR and 2nd inf 1 per card.
The final one or two ticks of income are also nearly worthless simply because whatever they buy will probably not reach the front in time to have an effect on the outcome. This has to be kept in mind when assessing real phase C income
Yeah. Would be nice to see 25 mins for phase C but last 5 mins wihtout income or something like that.