3rd Armored Division balance thread

[Graphic]

It would be pretty cool to see some cold war mods for steel division don't you think? Maybe modding in a T-80U and dueling a Sherman with it or something.etc

I mean would you just LOOK at it? Behold, the King Tiger of 1985:

Man you're trolling the burgers so hard!

 

[usnstarkey]

well the facts are on my side bud

Keep trying.

 

[I WUB PUGS]

well the facts are on my side bud

 

[1776ZOOMSNIPE1911]

Keep trying.

Why dont you write something on topic

 

[IS-2]

Man you're trolling the burgers so hard!

I wouldn't call it trolling, just making posts of matching quality to the thread.

 

[1776ZOOMSNIPE1911]

Man you're trolling the burgers so hard!

Man your trolling him so hard!

 

[1776ZOOMSNIPE1911]

Ok in order to keep the thread on topic, the next point of the discussion is that USA should get more Sherman m-4 in phase a and no Jumbos in phase B, i believe that this would help the game

 

[Radioshow]

LOL. More useless Shermans instead of a useful jumbo? I think not bub.

 

[Karlburg]

LOL. More useless Shermans instead of a useful jumbo? I think not bub.

I kinda wish this was a sherman spam division instead of the jumbo division, but the shermans need a considerable price drop for that to work.

 

[usnstarkey]

I kinda wish this was a sherman spam division instead of the jumbo division, but the shermans need a considerable price drop for that to work.

I agree. I would gladly have the Jumbo removed entirely in exchange for the ability to field mass numbers of 75Ws with sprinklings of 76mm.

120-130pt Sherman 75W. Twice the availability it has now.

200pt Sherman 76 (vet) 1 76 card for every 3-4 75w cards.

and no Jumbo at all.

 

[steve213]

I agree. I would gladly have the Jumbo removed entirely in exchange for the ability to field mass numbers of 75Ws with sprinklings of 76mm.

120-130pt Sherman 75W. Twice the availability it has now.

200pt Sherman 76 (vet) 1 76 card for every 3-4 75w cards.

and no Jumbo at all.

200 pt 76s have lost your mind, 180 at most.

 

[axnone]

Ok in order to keep the thread on topic, the next point of the discussion is that USA should get more Sherman m-4 in phase a and no Jumbos in phase B, i believe that this would help the game

I still want to hear from you the historical sources stating FW190 having better performance than Mustang.

 

[CyberianK]

I would actually be fine with
A) Stuart phase
B) Sherman phase
C) Jumbo phase

but for that to work the whole tank meta would have to be changed I think theres threads on that already. Pz4 and Sherman should be a very prominent encounter not a sight rarer than a Tiger in Caen.

 

[1776ZOOMSNIPE1911]

200 pt 76s have lost your mind, 180 at most.

I don't know where to begin

1. The pt 76 is Russian
2. The pt 76 is ootf
3. The pt 76 would be far too cheap at 180 points
4. There is no need for 200 of them

you'll have to wait for a Cold War dlc before they should be added( a Cold War game mode would be cool. T80's vs Abrams please)

 

[1776ZOOMSNIPE1911]

I still want to hear from you the historical sources stating FW190 having better performance than Mustang.

Google is your friend

 

[1776ZOOMSNIPE1911]

LOL. More useless Shermans instead of a useful jumbo? I think not bub.

I my hands I can clear up an entire flank with 2 squads inf/rec 1 at 1 mortar and a Sherman

 

[Dongs Galore]

For once I agree with 1871ZOOMSNIPE1945. I would gladly trade the Jumbo for phase A/B M4 avail (and a mild price buff for the M4a3).

Honestly I don't even take the Jumbo in most of my 3AD decks anymore, except for the 1v1 spec.

 

[Rojan]

For once I agree with 1871ZOOMSNIPE1945. I would gladly trade the Jumbo for phase A/B M4 avail (and a mild price buff for the M4a3).

Honestly I don't even take the Jumbo in most of my 3AD decks anymore, except for the 1v1 spec.

Not to start a witch hunt against me for asking this question, but did Jumbos even participate in the Normandie campaign? I have seen conflicting accounts of whether or not they arrived in time.

 

[TheDeadlyShoe]

The first jumbos arrived in Europe in September, so they are out of timeframe, but only barely.

 

[Dongs Galore]

If they did, it is not mentioned in the US Army's official history of the campaign. They existed in July 44, but according to Zaloga were not released for deployment until August 29 and only reached mainland Europe in September. These apparently did not start reaching frontline units until October.

So, as with the 76 and the Locust they could concievably have been deployed in timeframe but were not.

Realistically, the infantry divisions should actually have them because the first jumbos were assigned to independent battalions and attached mainly to infantry. Armored divisions didn't initially see the use for an assault tank and only started asking for them in November.