363) FEEDBACK: changing realm laws drop loyalty to 0

[Spruce]

changing realm laws

in my last game as king of Leon I was guessing why not change realm laws (I was struggling against disloyal citizens and bankrupcy)?

I changed the laws to popular laws, after 2 months each duke and count had dow'd me for doing that (loaylty went to 0.0 but was already rising, but unfortunately all my vassals caused the snowball effect),

so when my empire had crumbled just by changing realm laws, the king of Leon was thinking "that's why you don't change realm",

I hope this is a little bug here,

 

[kurtbrian]

I'm not sure.

People should getupset when you rock the foundation of their daily life.

 

[Spruce]

I'm not sure.

People should getupset when you rock the foundation of their daily life.

yes upset,

but not = empire destroyed,

so I believe the change is too dramatic, it's more like all hell breaks lose,

now every vassal goes to zero loyalty, I like to have a penalty of 50 or even 75, but 100 penalty is exagerated imho,

 

[Cat Lord]

I would also tend to say WAD, but I will log it so that we have some feedback anyway...

Cat

 

[CaBhaal]

My observation on this is that why does changing *your* laws change loyalty for everyone else. Their laws did not change. Their local succession order remains unchanged. Yet they are all upset and want to leave. They only provinces that should see loyalty changes are your heirs.

Your dememse on the other hand, whose lives *did* just got shaken up are ok with it. None of your own provinces leave. No peasant revolts. None of your heirs in court get upset and leave because they went from 1st to last in line to inherit.

There is an aspect of realism lacking here, or I am misunderstanding the way the system is designed to work.

On the other hand, I agree the current system is harsh. But there is a need for harshness in this game. Threre are apsects of the game that are too easy right now.

This is one of the few ways (barring high BB) to break up a Kingdom. Otherwise your vassals just sit nice and happy while you increase your demese size, with no other way to lose provinces.

The AI changes (hopefully ) forthcoming with 1.03 will make the difficulty level issue moot however.