30 years war and revolution mechanics: best thing ever to happen to EU?

[lucaluca]

I just love these two mechanics, they are very simple but provide lots of flavor and fun. Watching the european blobs wage a pointless war for decades is fun and gives some respite to the rest of the world. Also watching the revolutionary target trying to blob uncontrollably is fun. It's also fun that they are quite open ended and always different.

I think EUIV needs more of these unique mechanics, one for example should cover the 1700-1750 era and could be a series of crazy succession wars all over Europe.

 

[ThuderLizard2]

The league war in my first 1.8 game was one-sided with the Catholic league winning. It's too bad you can't have another war if Catholic wins the first one as it was over before I could join in.

 

[sermaciej]

There are already crazy succession wars all over Europe, but I agree that there should be more unique mechanics.

 

[lucaluca]

The league war in my first 1.8 game was one-sided with the Catholic league winning. It's too bad you can't have another war if Catholic wins the first one as it was over before I could join in.

there is usually only 1 war, there should be at least 2 wars. But in my playtests the sides were always balanced, once the leagues were all made of superweak states

 

[Ricox]

Yeah, the League war is one of the better parts of the expansion, IMO, simply because it involves almost all of Europe and really gets some warfare going. The typical conquest wars get a bit boring and they're usually limited in scope. I just wish we had more of those massive wars represented (dynamically, of course, so it's not just some event that starts a war with the historical sides and stuff, ignoring the game situation - I was actually fearing that the 30 yrs war would be exactly that, but the mechanic was a pleasant surprise).

 

[Freudia]

League war was underwhelming in both games it showed up in.

 

[Snaggleooo]

Really like the league war mechanic. Nothing happened in my first game as England, but in my second as France, Europe burned beautifully for almost 20 years. The first war was really tight, with around 400k troops on either side to start and the Catholics getting out to about 40% WS before the Protestants brought it all the way back for the win (with able assistance from the French Protestant armies). That war lasted 12 years. The next was the Catholics trying to get back into power, but went badly for them. I know it's pretty much easy mode playing France, but I really enjoyed the strategy of fighting the war effectively but not draining your manpower; it'd be even more interesting as Austria or a smaller power.

 

[Enewald]

I had Netherlands start the League war versus Catholic Austria, with France (catholic) and Ottomans (sunni) deciding to join on the side of the League to piss of Austria.
I was playing Spain, with my catholic ally Portugal dragging me in because they were allied to Great Britain (protestant) who had joined the Catholics to piss of France and Netherlands.
Other weird participants were Golden Horde, Crimea, Tunisia, Bosnia, Hungary, Sweden, almost all of HRE, protestant large Tuscany, huge colonial states... The only European powers who remained neutral were Poland, Lithuania and Russia.

Lasted from 1584 to 1595, until Netherlands had managed to knock enough catholic members out from the game, with Austria unable to get enough enemy centres out. It was weird having huge battles with the League doomstack defeating British-Spanish-Austrian armies in very much looted and burned down France.

In the end I got nothing as Austria made easy war reparation peace with France, whose partial occupation had given us some score, so Austria gave in to the Dutch demands for peace.
I just wanted some French provinces in Meso-America, but in the end only half a million Spaniards had perished somewhere in the fields of Austrian Lothringen with no gains for me...

 

[Illianor123]

In my first league war all of Europe bar Savoy, Great Britain and Naples joined in. Even Muscovy and the Ottomans joined in. Protestants won (I was a not very big Prussia). Similar numbers of troops on both sides.

Castile, France, Austria, Poland, Lithuania v Prussia, Muscovy, Bohemia, Scandinavia, Burgundy