2d art lacking for navy and minors ? Is this going to be paid or free upgrades later?

[Pete0714]

they had black&white stock photos rather than 2d art in HoI III. Looked through a few old screenshots i still had. I doubt they would charge you for something they probably downloaded off of Wikipedia. In HoI IV they actually had a 2d artist sit down and make those 2d models.

Dh had artwork too. Base game.

 

[LordOfWar16]

Hearts of Iron II had ship photos, but I don't know about III.

Photos. And besides I guess I am spoiled by dh which includes all of that without dl c. Too bad paradox didn't learn from that model.

Well, you need to keep in mind that those 2d models were made by artists that would like to get paid for their work. If you take a look at the 2d art dev diary for example it might not be as easy as it seems, since there is a ton of 2d art in the game. The 2d art for the naval bombers alone took them a considerable amount of time (and money).

Spoiler

Dh had artwork too. Base game.

Darkest Hour is not made by Paradox.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

No one is suggesting it is quick or easy to design nice 2D artwork, but it's just such a shame that in every HoI game so far the navy has been treated like a poor relation. So in HoI IV, in terms of artwork, we have:

Army: generic 2D artwork, generic 3D models, unique 2D artwork for the major powers, DLC 3D models for tanks
Air Force: generic 2D artwork, generic 3D models, unique 2D artwork for the major powers
Navy: generic 2D artwork, generic 3D models, DLC 3D models for a few heavy cruisers

In addition to this, all of the ships just have black silhouettes when viewed as part of a flotilla (division), whereas tanks and planes have their own colored 2D artwork, or at least the generic colored 2D artwork (for minor nations). Ships don't even get this, even for USA, UK, GER, etc.

I suppose we should be thankful that Paradox decided to make leader portraits for famous admirals?

 

[Zaku]

I really love the art in HOI4, I just think that unique equipment art for the majors at least should be in the base game. The fact that they are selling 2d art on day one(if what podcat said in the other thread is true) then it suggests that they did cut these out of the base game.

And I talk against myself because I DID buy the colonel edition, so it won't affect me in any way if it's in the base game or in the DLC.

 

[Pete0714]

Darkest Hour is not made by Paradox.

Well, it was a hearts of iron game, fully under paradox's umbrella.
Unfortunately, they got relegated to the classic game section while still going strong, Wonder why ?

 

[LordOfWar16]

In addition to this, all of the ships just have black silhouettes when viewed as part of a flotilla (division), whereas tanks and planes have their own colored 2D artwork, or at least the generic colored 2D artwork (for minor nations). Ships don't even get this for USA, UK, GER, etc.

Ships dont have black silhouettes. That was placeholder art for the planes from a while back. All minors and majors have the same generic 2d art for their ships. The black silhouettes are only when you select them and during the battle. In the report they are 2d models again.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

But that's what I said... 'when viewed as part of a flotilla (division' i.e. when you select them.

 

[griffor]

way more important things i care about than oh look a pretty unique picture

 

[Lifthrasil]

I really love the art in HOI4, I just think that unique equipment art for the majors at least should be in the base game. The fact that they are selling 2d art on day one(if what podcat said in the other thread is true) then it suggests that they did cut these out of the base game.

And I talk against myself because I DID buy the colonel edition, so it won't affect me in any way if it's in the base game or in the DLC.

Wait wait wait. I thought the Tank-models are the 3D-models ON THE MAP that are sold in the colonel/FM edition.
The 2D pictures for the majors are all individual for the 12 tank tiers, i thought. Am I wrong?
Does that mean I only get to see 3-5 different 2D tank pictures when I play Germany?

 

[Zaku]

Wait wait wait. I thought the Tank-models are the 3D-models ON THE MAP that are sold in the colonel/FM edition.
The 2D pictures for the majors are all individual for the 12 tank tiers, i thought. Am I wrong?
Does that mean I only get to see 3-5 different 2D tank pictures when I play Germany?

Apparently the ship models come with unique 2d art as well.

yes although the naval content packs (check the preorder FAQ) do contain country specific art for the ones included

The tank models are only 3d, at least I really hope so.

 

[fabius]

Problem here is that this is a visual downgrade from hoi3. Hoi3 had photos for almost all the units, generals, ministers. Dlc was only for 3d models on map. Now for hoi 4 we have some 2d art for majors and rest is generic and destined for paid dlc? Count me out if that is true, I dont care what modelers can do to replace dev work.

Well yes and no. Overall the art. aesthetics of Hoi4 is much better. Pics of carriers give a good example. But really, 90-99% probability that Mods will outdo most art work, probably 3d models too, and especially the generics. So I will most likely get a few early nice cosmetic dlc and save my money for gameplay content either at P'dox or other games.