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Here's my current de jure kingdoms view:
Please tell me which kingdoms to add! There's still many places that have huge kingdoms (Russia (!!), Turkey (!)
Also I made some flags (mostly by batch processing the rectangle flags off of Victoria 2 into squares. I like the result!
Good catches! I didn't notice that Czernowitz reverted back to Romania. I've added ISIS now, just to please you
Soon-ish. I've uploaded a previous version on this thread (the one without proper terrain). I had this on my disc for quite long but never knew what to do with it mechanics wise. I still don't quite know THAT btw.
Please tell me which kingdoms to add! There's still many places that have huge kingdoms (Russia (!!), Turkey (!)
Also I made some flags (mostly by batch processing the rectangle flags off of Victoria 2 into squares. I like the result!
Good catches! I didn't notice that Czernowitz reverted back to Romania. I've added ISIS now, just to please you
Soon-ish. I've uploaded a previous version on this thread (the one without proper terrain). I had this on my disc for quite long but never knew what to do with it mechanics wise. I still don't quite know THAT btw.
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Wow Jon, you really took over the mod
Can't wait for release.
I hope I don't ...
I just like to draw borders and flags. Writing events? Not so much.
ThankyouGood catches! I didn't notice that Czernowitz reverted back to Romania. I've added ISIS now, just to please you
Come to think of it though I'm not sure a prussian de jure kingdom makes much sense since the war, since there are basically no Germans there any more, same with a Galicia-Lodomeria de jure kingdom. Am I correct in assuming that these other lines on the map mean you've changed these?
You could split poland into a Malopolska and Wielkopolska if you want
Also russia could do with being broken up slightly, maybe something like this
And the Aquitaine / Burgundian kingdoms should probably be an Occitania one instead because they don't really follow cultural lines as they are now
And maybe since you've done those a Kurdistan kingdom would be appropriate too?
EDIT: Also it seems like you've included the republic of Macedonia with Serbia. I'd suggest changing that before you get a lot of angry people from the balkans posting in all caps
Doubt you're planning on it, but in case you haven't noticed it, somebody just made a whole world map (well ported the EUIV one):
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?834211-Imperium-Universalis
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?834211-Imperium-Universalis
@Naltz
People in paradox games often want to do some historical revisionalism. A German player would probably want to restore the German Empire of old and restore its borders. With the Prussian kingdom there you can get 1918-1938 borders by reclaiming the Prussian lands, pre 1918 borders by taking another duchy off of Poland. Some kind of path for certain nations to re-build long dead empires just as the Roman Empire in vanilla would make sense to me. Even if it is pretty impossible nowadays. But hey, the Russians tried to sell Oblast Kaliningrad to Germany on several occasions. The German chancellors just never took the risk and turned them down every time. Putin is unlikely to give up any land but Yeltsin supposedly tried to sell it in the nineties. It is an exclave of Russia and only important now due to the pipeline they built there. The Soviets attempted to re-settle this area in a perfect Communist way. All people banished -> clean slate. Didn't work out too well, though.
The other lines (if I understood you correctly) are the actual borders on top of the de jure entities just as on the screenshot of the independent realms map view I posted before.
Galicia-Lodomeria is also mostly there for that: If you re-build the Austrian empire you need to take all of Czechia, Slovakia, Galicia, Hungary, Transsylvania, the duchy of Vojvodina, the Südtirol duchy, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Kotor of Montenegro. Also as Galicia has been dissolved since 1918 it would by standard CK2 drifting rules still be on the map (but of course doesn't have to).
Russia -> sounds good to me
France -> Cultural lines? Haven't the French pretty much succeeded in destroying the Occitain culture (and the Breton, Norman, Wallonian, German Alsatians ones as well)? I just want to have some subdivisions to the French lands. What would be an appropriate split if I wanted 3-4 kingdoms in e_france?
I made Macedonia a separate de jure kingdom (with only 2 counties) already. Why would it be so bad anyways? Macedonia was part of the Serbian kingdom before 1918. The thing Slavs might hate me for is that I just made the region bulgarian because well they really are Bulgarians. Just as I omitted "Montenegrin" -> that's just Serbian. Belarussian isn't used all that much either so Belarus is just Russian atm.
People in paradox games often want to do some historical revisionalism. A German player would probably want to restore the German Empire of old and restore its borders. With the Prussian kingdom there you can get 1918-1938 borders by reclaiming the Prussian lands, pre 1918 borders by taking another duchy off of Poland. Some kind of path for certain nations to re-build long dead empires just as the Roman Empire in vanilla would make sense to me. Even if it is pretty impossible nowadays. But hey, the Russians tried to sell Oblast Kaliningrad to Germany on several occasions. The German chancellors just never took the risk and turned them down every time. Putin is unlikely to give up any land but Yeltsin supposedly tried to sell it in the nineties. It is an exclave of Russia and only important now due to the pipeline they built there. The Soviets attempted to re-settle this area in a perfect Communist way. All people banished -> clean slate. Didn't work out too well, though.
The other lines (if I understood you correctly) are the actual borders on top of the de jure entities just as on the screenshot of the independent realms map view I posted before.
Galicia-Lodomeria is also mostly there for that: If you re-build the Austrian empire you need to take all of Czechia, Slovakia, Galicia, Hungary, Transsylvania, the duchy of Vojvodina, the Südtirol duchy, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Kotor of Montenegro. Also as Galicia has been dissolved since 1918 it would by standard CK2 drifting rules still be on the map (but of course doesn't have to).
Russia -> sounds good to me
France -> Cultural lines? Haven't the French pretty much succeeded in destroying the Occitain culture (and the Breton, Norman, Wallonian, German Alsatians ones as well)? I just want to have some subdivisions to the French lands. What would be an appropriate split if I wanted 3-4 kingdoms in e_france?
I made Macedonia a separate de jure kingdom (with only 2 counties) already. Why would it be so bad anyways? Macedonia was part of the Serbian kingdom before 1918. The thing Slavs might hate me for is that I just made the region bulgarian because well they really are Bulgarians. Just as I omitted "Montenegrin" -> that's just Serbian. Belarussian isn't used all that much either so Belarus is just Russian atm.
It would work if the restrictions on who is allowed to do it would be changed and the requirements adapted to de jure changes. I don't know if Adriano did that in his mod (yet) and if he plans to do so.
The problem is that you can only do the Roman restoration as e_byzantium and that's not existing in 2015. It would have to be either Greece turning into Byzantium, then restoring Rome or any other, fitting requirement.
That sounds fair, there are some Greek people who might want reform the Byzantine empire anyway.
You must also take into account that French regions will change in 2016/17, with lot of fusion between two or three regions, with, for exemple, Alsace+Lorraine+Champagne as one region.
I also dislike the absence of Lorraine and Moselle (county) in Alsace (duchy).
The current split is good in my opinion, but German Alsace, really?
The duchy could really be put put into the French de jure, you are right.
I don't quite get what you mean with "I also dislike the absence of Lorraine and Moselle (county) in Alsace (duchy)."
What is your opinion on French kingdoms btw? The current French kingdom has a pretty weird shape ...
Elsass and Lothringen belong to the German Empire, not the Frenchy Republique
Here's my current de jure kingdoms view:
But Polan is riteful owner of prussia. But.. Yeah, i guess why you put Germany there, but it just looks disgusting. As does the silesia. And lesser poland. I'd argue here, but at the same time i wouldnt. Dont know what to say tbh. Id personally more prefer the 1920's Poland de jure setup, with some tweaks to silesia and east prussia. Anyways, great map.
Please suggest something better. I am very willing to change the duchy and kingdom setup in any way you want as long as you are specific. The current k_polska's de jure duchies are less than perfect. East of the Neisse could of course be made Polish, yeah. The idea is that you have to do difficult things to claim the german empire or the Prussian kingdom (fight France for Elsass/Alsace?).
Galica & Lodomeria can be removed / tweaked if necessary. Maybe even parts of Belarus / Ukraine repossessed to fit Poland better. The counties are all in place, if you look hard enough you can even see 1920's Poland on this map
To be exact the core Prussian area (later renamed East Prussia) never really was Polan's (or Polish). At first it was Old Prussian, then settled by the Teutonic Order (with Germans, French, Lithuanian etc. settlers). The southern (nowadays Polish) part of East Prussia had a Polish speaking population at some point but those never really identied as Poles as they were mostly Lutherans. In fact the majority of those Poles (Masurians) re-settled to Germany after WWII.
Nowadays it is indeed distinctly Polish (duh).
Making Macedonia its own de iure kingdom is the best way to approach things, mostly because Serbs and Bulgarians and Albanians have often fought over the region.
Making Macedonian and Bulgarian one is a bit of a tricky thing because the language of the northern Macedonians is more similar to Serbian, and in the south more similar to Bulgarian, but it might be better to do that in the long run if you're going to do that same thing to the Montenegrins.
Also, what's the culture of the western prov of Macedonia atm?
There's two provinces in Macedonia and I made both of them bulgarian. I fully well know that there's a ton of Albanians there and that this is a tricky topic.
As for Montenegrin ... I kinda hope that it works out itself just as "Moldavian" did
(and yeah, in the former Yugoslav territories this isn't all too likely).When discussing all this keep in mind that atm there's still tons of german/french catholic provinces in Africa and that all of India is hindustani / hindu atm. If you want to make a nicer de jure / cultural setup for the Balkans consider to help me by editing the map filler excel sheet
I'll look into it but it would be quite tricky to do without offending someone, but you gotta do that sometimes unfortunately.
On another note, are you planning to do the whole native names thing without an English version?
Also, since you're looking to diminish the size of large de iure kingdoms, might I suggest splitting off Scania and Götaland into one new kingdom?
On another note, are you planning to do the whole native names thing without an English version?
Also, since you're looking to diminish the size of large de iure kingdoms, might I suggest splitting off Scania and Götaland into one new kingdom?