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Kami888

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Please have some Serbs kill an Arch Duke.
Another one? Where are you going to get him from? there aren't that many Arch Dukes left today, especially Austrian.

After the war in the area of the Balcans the Bulgaria VS Macedonia and Bulgaria win.
Who told you that there would be such a war and who told you that Bulgaria would win? :D
 

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SVS.. How is he progress going on?

Do you have a release date?
 

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No, no announces still. Pardon.
Kosovo Question can be solved in favor of Serbia, only if I'd include such things as ethnic cleansing. So I suppose it's better do not add this.
Western Macedonia is Albanian and Eastern is EU's (read: Bulgarian);
Turkey can gain maritime Bulgarian regions, as there lives considerable population of Turks and Pomaks, and I suppose their number will only increase in future (in fact, moreover, I had reflected slow but unstoppable tendention of islamization of Europe);
At the beginning, Azerbaijan is already at war with Armenia. I made so because Armenia is in alliance with Russia, so starting conflict in the game process would provoke automatic Russian joining on the Armenian side. Azeris are claiming all Armeinian territory as well as neighboring Russian and Iranian regions, and this is not an ill fantasy. If Azerbaijan win, it can unite with Turkey, and after this Turkey can revive its panturkist ideas with all appropriate consequences.
...And look, Josip, we have another version of beginning of Kosovan war. It was started not without help of some Western powers. But no matter, however.
 

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Proper English... How cynic :( .
Well, there are facts that genocide of Kosovan Albanians was launched by Belgrad as response to Albanian-initiated genocide of Kosovan Serbs. The similar situation was in Bosnia. The West tries to suppress Serbian nation, dissolve it completely, so it never support Bosnian Republika Srpska if it would wish to reunite with Serbia. Double standards, gentlemen! It's because Serbia is like Russia in miniature (thus Yugoslavia was like USSR in miniature), so Serbia is a good training field for definite powers before they could do the same scenario with Russia.
 

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Azeris are claiming all Armeinian territory as well as neighboring Russian and Iranian regions
this is not an ill fantasy.
Most of it is ill fantasy though. It's true that Azeris can have claims on Iran (Tabriz) and on Nagorno-Karabakh (currently occupied by Armenia), but the rest is utter bullshit. I know because I am half-Azeri and i was born in Azerbaijan. I'm sorry but claims on Russia and Armenia proper can only come from a really ill fantasy. :(
By the way Azerbaijan today is actually much more friendly to Russia than you seem to think. Starting the game at war with Russia would be quite... pissing off for me at least. Can you change that please?

If Azerbaijan win
Win against Russia? are you crazy? :D

so it never support Bosnian Republika Srpska if it would wish to reunite with Serbia
It's called "divide and rule". The West really likes breaking up bigger countries into small ones because small ones are much easier to subdue.

(in fact, moreover, I had reflected slow but unstoppable tendention of islamization of Europe)
I am interested in knowing how exactly have you "reflected" this?
 
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I think that there is a queit possible chance that Republika Srpska would reunite with serbia..! Thay had always wanted it.. 99% of the people who live in Republika srpska are serbs.. The only thing that holds them back is the treath og foreign powers..


I dont think that Yugoslavia was a miniture USSR.. They were Comunist, but Tito refused to corporate with Russia.. Throughout the whole Cold war they were a Neutral country..
 

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Razbojnik said:
I think that there is a queit possible chance that Republika Srpska would reunite with serbia..! Thay had always wanted it.. 99% of the people who live in Republika srpska are serbs.. The only thing that holds them back is the treath og foreign powers..


I dont think that Yugoslavia was a miniture USSR.. They were Comunist, but Tito refused to corporate with Russia.. Throughout the whole Cold war they were a Neutral country..

By administrative-political and economical systems it was mini-USSR. Federalism was the killing weapon for both (not the reason of death!)...
:(
 

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kami888 said:
I'm sorry but claims on Russia and Armenia proper can only come from a really ill fantasy. :(
По заявлениям азербайджанского парламента (июнь 2001 г.), "историческими азербайджанскими землями" помимо собственно территории Азербайджанской Республики являются:
1) Часть территории Грузии,
2) Южные районы российского Дагестана,
3) Вся территория Армении,
4) Северо-западные районы Ирана.

kami888 said:
It's called "divide and rule". The West really likes breaking up bigger countries into small ones because small ones are much easier to subdue.
Of course. It's key aspect of foreign politics of some well-known countries. Look, my specialization is geopolitics and ethnic relations, so I'm completely aware of such nuances.

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Win against Russia? are you crazy?
Russia is neutral in beginning, I already mentioned it.
And moreover, in the light of ongoing events, Erevan will not be in union with Russia at all (yesterday their representative declared Armenia would like to join EU).

kami888 said:
I am interested in knowing how exactly have you "reflected" this?
Through events, mainly.

sean john said:
ı guess Turkey would intervene,and even NATO.
Turkey would be having a slim chance to become dominant power in Caucasus and, in perspective, in Central Asia.

I have two main possible lines of development: unification and disintegration.
 

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историческими азербайджанскими землями
Annnnddd? Yes those are historical lands of Azerbaijan, I agree with that. But did we say we wanted to reclaim them even though in most of these lands there aren't even any Azeris living any more? There is something (actually a lot of things) missing in your logic.
I've been to Baku very recently, I can say that the sweetest dreams of worst Azeri nationalists include Southern Azerbaijan (in Iran) and of course Armenian-occupied lands.
Something like this:
http://www.travel-images.com/az-unitedazerb.jpg
And since the government doesn't seem to care about Iran at all, the only claim that we really have today is for Nagorno-Karabakh.

Selam Gardaş
Salam Aleykum! - that's how we say it. Close enough, that is if gardaş stands for "friend" of course. :D
 
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This is not my logic. This is logic of some radical Azeri parlamentarians. And moreover, if you are thinking I'm lacking of logic, experience, knowledge, IQ or something else, - I must disagree with you, because I know what I'm doing and I know that sometimes I make mistakes, but your accusations are completely senseless.
 

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This is logic of some radical Azeri parlamentarians.
Plaese point out precisely what Azeri parlamentarians you are talking about and what percentage of the parliament they own.
For now, it seems to me that you are having serious illisuioins about Azerbaijan and about all Muslim countries in general.

if you are thinking I'm lacking of logic, experience, knowledge, IQ or something else
No, I am most certainly not accusing you of low IQ. Unfortunately though, a lot of people can have high IQ, but be so brainwashed about politics that it's almost unbelievable.

You know what - I won't disturb you any more with my stupid questions or suggestions. It's your mod so I can't tell you how it should look like. Just do it whatever way you want it to be. If your intention is to have muslim countries invading everyone and trying to take over the world - fine do that, just do it faster. At the end when you release your mod i'll just have to modify it so it makes a bit more sense and then release that version.
 

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Illusions?! Hopefully I am far from any political illusions. I have contacts with many of muslim states of Asian region. Islamic and Eastern cultures are my direct specialization. And example of one country cannot expand on others as well. You mustn't generalize these things. But well, I see that there's no more any sense to continue my work in the light of such negative reaction. While don't knowing anything in details about this mod, you have only one goal - to blacken it. Well, I hope now you'll be happy enough.
(A pity that Armenians hadn't drowned all of you in Caspian :mad: )

THE PROJECT IS FREEZED FOR A LONG TIME, POSSIBLY FOREVER.
 

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Err, woah. Temper tantrum. Why are you freezing the mod over one guy?
 

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SVS said:
Illusions?! Hopefully I am far from any political illusions. I have contacts with many of muslim states of Asian region. Islamic and Eastern cultures are my direct specialization.
calm down. most of us belive you (to a certain dgree anyway) ...
SVS said:
(A pity that Armenians hadn't drowned all of you in Caspian :mad: )
well that's not very nice...
SVS said:
THE PROJECT IS FREEZED FOR A LONG TIME, POSSIBLY FOREVER.
oh stop being such a drama qeen! if you need a break (and you do, trust me) take it, but we will be awaiting you return.
with a tricolor, no less. ;)
 

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please dont freeze this i been followin it for months now in the hope that i will be able to play it coz it looks well cool, just make it and the loser who keeps complainin can mod it if he does not like it, it wont take long to mod one country, but wastin a whole new world and scenario would be a complete shame for those of us that want to play it, give him some support guys from the limited moddin i have done i know how long it takes

woooo (support)
 

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SVS said:
THE PROJECT IS FREEZED FOR A LONG TIME, POSSIBLY FOREVER.
Please don't cancel this mod. I keep looking in waiting for it even tho i havent posted before. You are doing a good job and the main thing to remember is that you are making this mod and should do it how you want. By all means listen to ideas but its still up to you in the end.

Hope this mod continues soon
 

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Firstly, I just can't help but point out that these two sentences stongly contradict each other:
Islamic and Eastern cultures are my direct specialization.
A pity that Armenians hadn't drowned all of you in Caspian
A person who is really an expert in another culture would never call for extermination of that culture. :)

But well, I see that there's no more any sense to continue my work in the light of such negative reaction.
Calm down seriously. You're making a mod based on your point of view of politics, and it is bound to be conflicting with point of views of at least some of us. And as you may notice in my previous message I actually encouraged you to keep working on the mod. Maybe you somehow missed that, so I will encourage you again: please keep working on the mod, no matter how much I or anyone else disagrees with you.

THE PROJECT IS FREEZED FOR A LONG TIME, POSSIBLY FOREVER.
I sincerely hope it's not freezed.

That's it I promise that this is my last post in this thread.