[2.6.2] Ultimatums Impossible

[Fishman786]

The faction ultimatums for "Overthrow Khan" and "Independence" require that there be no occupied holdings anywhere in the realm, but even with absolutely no occupied holdings at all the requirement still won't activate. This makes any decent vassal game as a nomadic character basically impossible.

 

[[Arthur-PDX]]

Hey,

Sorry for the inconvenience, it does seem like a rather big issue. From what we've seen, the "No occupation" condition is always unchecked. However, the "Independence" faction seem to be able to send the ultimatum (overthrow Khan doesn't, though). Is this the same for you or are both ultimatums always unavailable ?

In any case, we're making a ticket.


Arthur

 

[Fishman786]

Hey,

Sorry for the inconvenience, it does seem like a rather big issue. From what we've seen, the "No occupation" condition is always unchecked. However, the "Independence" faction seem to be able to send the ultimatum (overthrow Khan doesn't, though). Is this the same for you or are both ultimatums always unavailable ?

In any case, we're making a ticket.


Arthur

Thanks for responding, good to know that this is a technical issue and not just a design decision/balance problem.
I thought I had both ultimatums unavailable but then in another game I saw that the AI was using the independence ultimatum. I'm sure I couldn't fire the ultimatum and I thought that I saw the occupation thing, but it might also have had other causes since the AI could do it.

Do you know which file the 'overthrow khan' ultimatum is contained in?

 

[[Arthur-PDX]]

Check in "game\decisions\faction_decisions" for "overthrow". It won't necessarily be called "overthrow khan" though, but "overthrow ruler" or something like that, the "khan" title being fetched by the localization.


Arthur