[2.6.2 KADD] Tribal Organization ultimatum fails to start a war

[jruderman]

1. Load the save game from https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...tedly-requests-and-breaks-a-betrothal.971604/
2. Play as the Duke of Silesia (a faction leader in the Kingdom of Poland)
3. Send an ultimatum to "Lower Tribal Organization in Poland"
4. Wait a few days for liege response
5. "Then war it is!"

The war does NOT begin.

error.log shows:

[effectimplementation.cpp:3297]: Assert failed for 'reverse_war': !"Cannot use scripted CB"
[event.cpp:598]: Previous assert occured in Event '8114'.

 

[jruderman]

I've also seen this in the log:

[effectimplementation.cpp:3297]: Assert failed for 'reverse_war': !"Cannot use scripted CB"
[event.cpp:598]: Previous assert occured in Event '8219'.

So I guess it can happen for "increase council power" wars too.

 

[[Arthur-PDX]]

Hey !

Thanks for the report ! The problem in your save was that the Silesian duke's demands were to Lower Tribal Orga while it was already at the minimum, which apparently created a rift in space-time continuum and basically screwed his casus belli : because indeed from your save & from scratch, war could not be declared, but as soon as the TribOrg was high enough to be lowered, war could be declared through ultimatum.

So, the root problem is that the Silesian's Duke faction of lowering Orga wasn't disbanded while it was already at the minimum. We've added that to our databse and we'll look into it.


Arthur

 

[jruderman]

> rift in space-time continuum

It does seem like it should be rare, but I see this in error.log for every CM-start game I've played recently. I wonder if there's more than one bug here.

 

[jruderman]

Btw, why is this war requirement (that Tribal Org is already at the minimum) only in can_use_title and not also in is_valid_title?

And why does this war target a title at all? Tribal Org is a realm law, not a crown law. Same with Increase Council Power, for which I'm pretty sure I've seen a faction targeting the wrong title!

 

[Servancour]

The issue seems to be related to the factions specifically, as the factions won't always disband when they are supposed to (which causes this issue to appear).

As for the law not being in is_valid_title; it already checks for it in can_use_title and doesn't need to check it again in is_valid. Since you cannot change laws while in civil war.

 

[jruderman]

An inheritance or another simultaneous revolt could cause laws to change, though.