[2.51] Content councillors joining factions?

[Shampoocat]

Title says it all. As far as i know characters on the council should be unable to join/create factions. However i can join/create factions against my liege and have my councillors do the same against me while they are content

 

[rageair]

It's the 'War Declaration' council law that controls the faction joining aspect. Do you have it set to 'Council'?

 

[Shampoocat]

I did some mucking around and it only happens in the Charlemagne and old god start dates.
Also yes it is the War Declaration thing that is the cause. I would still lable it as a bug as the tooltip is totaly broken. It tells me that i cannot join or create factions while i am on the council and content, exept i can. There is no mention of the law anywhere exept if you mouse over the War Declaration law.

 

[rageair]

We'll look into improving the tooltips.

 

[Shampoocat]

Thanks

 

[GothicEmperor]

I was just about to report this. The game doesn't make this clear at all.

 

[Slayen]

It's the 'War Declaration' council law that controls the faction joining aspect. Do you have it set to 'Council'?

I must know.

Why, of all things, have that be the law that determines the councils ability to join factions?

 

[Trithemius]

What was the problem with Contentedness being the limiting factor?

 

[dcd111]

So, if I'm reading this right, it seems that when War Declaration is set to "Council", contentedness is the limiting factor for when councilors can start factions. When it is set to "Ruler", there is no limiting factor. Odd choice, must have had something to do with balancing, I guess? This really should be made clearer. Also, this makes factions that increase the power of the council counterproductive; I successfully forced my liege to increase council power through a faction demand when I was on the council, and as far as I can tell the law that was changed as a result was "War Declaration". So, no factions for us anymore. Which means the council has functionally taken a step backwards in power. I'm glad I didn't have to go to war for that one.