[2.4.3] Duplicate Clan Created on Succession

[Schlimm]

Currently playing as the head Khan of the Bolghars, leader of Clan Barsil. When my Khan dies, a duplicate clan Barsil is created, and my heir owns both clans. The duplicate clan has zero of everything, and the original clan has all the population, technology, manpower etc.

So, I'm stuck playing as the duplicated clan, but can't absorb the original clan.

 

[pr00thisi]

Yeah this happened to me as well, it left me with two clan buildings in my home province and only basic technology after the inheritance

 

[rageair]

Do you have a save of right before this happens? If you keep dying, do you get new clans each time?

Thanks for the report.

 

[Craggles]

Do you have a save of right before this happens? If you keep dying, do you get new clans each time?

Thanks for the report.

I got the same bug, no save from before it occured but it keeps duplicating the clan if I kill myself via console, it started happening when I tried out beta .3.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sp7h2lfpubg15ht/Turkestan856_05_20.ck2?dl=0

 

[rageair]

I got the same bug, no save from before it occured but it keeps duplicating the clan if I kill myself via console, it started happening when I tried out beta .3.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sp7h2lfpubg15ht/Turkestan856_05_20.ck2?dl=0

Do you have any additional information regarding how you got into this situation? Had you revoked any kingdom titles? Were any of you other kinsmen landed in any way? Any information is good information.

Thanks!

 

[pr00thisi]

When it happened to me, I owned the Byzantine Empire and the Kingdom of Greece along with my Khanate and Clan. I hadn't revoked any Kingdom titles, but I had revoked many dutchys and counties, I owned hundreds of baronies, cities and temples which I was in the middle of razing and some of those were other clan territory

EDIT: Also none of my family were landed in anyway, other than mercenary companes

 

[Schlimm]

I do have the save directly before this happened to me (should be attached to this post).

Every time the Khan in this save dies, the duplicate clan bug occurs. I've tried killing off heirs with console commands to see if it's any particular heir that's causing the problem, but it doesn't seem to matter who inherits.

This could be key, though: I created the Bolghar dejure kingdom for the prestige effects while playing as the current Khan. The bug didn't start occurring until after I created the kingdom. Could be a coincidence, or it could be the cause, I don't know.

 

[Schlimm]

Looks like you can't attach the save files to the posts. Here's a link to the save file directly before the bug occurs:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nth5objeonldmv/Bolghar2.ck2?dl=0

 

[Schlimm]

Update: To see if the Bolghar dejure kingdom was the problem, I went into the save file and removed the kingdom from my Khan. After doing this, the succession worked without issue. So: the kingdom I created appears to be the problem.

 

[Craggles]

After poking around a bit I found the source of the issue based on what Schlimm suggested. When you hold a kingdom title as a nomad clan, your death will trigger a duplication of "k_dyn_(numbers)_(number). As a result clans will begin duplicating after every death.

old_holding="e_dyn_188767_1" <--- Primary dynastic clan title
old_holding="k_dyn_188767_1" <--- Title duplicated on death

It also duplicates a fresh capital holding in your capital province.

 

[pr00thisi]

Is there any way to reverse this?

 

[Craggles]

Is there any way to reverse this?

You can delete the title from your character in the save file, but that is a stop gap rather than a fix. You cannot hold any kingdom titles without the duplication bug, it inhibits your gameplay options. I doubt the developers will have a hard time fixing such a simple bug, I would suggest letting them fix it with a simple beta iteration.

 

[rageair]

Yes, this issue is fixed and will be in the next Beta iteration!