[2.4.2] Holding stops existing even though it exists.

[klopkr]

So I was playing on the beta patch and I attacked Khazaria for a De Jure county of mine. It had feudal holdings but the empty holding was its primary holding. When I won I got the county but none of the subholdings. I'm not allowed to give it away and and I can't revoke the counties inside of it. It kept showing up as seiged but nobody had seiged it. I released the feudal vassal because I thought I could just holy war him and maybe fix it but I ended up with a truce so I murdered him and now it says it's owned by the Abbasids, under seige by me and has no character associated with it.

It could be because I built a fort in it while at war and it disappeared after? I tried to build a second fort after I owned it and it built but then vanished immediatly.

Here's some screenshots:

 

[klopkr]

So I loaded up the game and now the dead man own it. I can't interact with him at all though and you can see the weird sieged lines on the map.

 

[rageair]

Do you have a savegame from right before you do the de jure war? I think that'd be very useful in tracking this issue down.

Thanks for the report!

 

[klopkr]

Do you have a savegame from right before you do the de jure war? I think that'd be very useful in tracking this issue down.

Thanks for the report!

It's Ironman so I don't think so. Sorry. I think it's definitely related to Nomads personally owning feudal lands through their empty slots and losing them without giving the feudal ruler any of the subholdings.

I'm going to try to recreate it and see if it happens again.

 

[klopkr]

So it turns out it's very very easy to recreate. All you need is any nomad holding otherwise feudal land with constructed holdings and to attack him and win as a feudal ruler but not use a cb that gives you any of the titles other than the county.

Once you win you get the empty holding that the nomad used as the primary holding but it doesn't work so it defaults the barony as the county capital even though you don't own it which i think is why it looks sieged on the map. If a nomad regains the county it goes right back to normal for him. It also kills your fort and any fort you build in the county.

here are some pictures:
I give the county to a nomad and the empty holding become the primary holding:

I then declare war with the de jure casus beli and win the war. note i will have a fort here:

I win and the glitch happens. This time for some reason the top baron stayed a vassal of the nomad. Not my fort is gone and I 'control' the county. My demesne does not go up:

Now I do it again with a different county. (the tribe immediately steeled so i gave the region to another nomad to keep testing):

Exact same thing but this time the top baron stayed my vassal:

Now I give it back to a nomad and it's fixed:

I'll link the save game when i figure out where they're located.

 

[rageair]

I was able to replicate this issue thanks to your additional information, I'll add an issue to the internal database.

Thank you for the help!