[2.4.1] Became a Landless Count-level Nomad

[Guancyto]

I was a Yagbuid Khan in the 769 start, who was running across the steppes and conquering into tribal lands to get away from another blob. The Suomensuko tribes had launched a liberation war to end the subjugation of one of their brothers, and at the same time my Khagan was fighting a war for his last county.

He appears to have surrendered the Liberation war and the conquest of his last county at the same time, and became unlanded (tried to usurp a county that was no longer his, I assume). With no Khagan, I became a count-level character with the Nomad government type, with the Tribes I had conquered as independent baron-level rulers in the counties I possessed who had me as their heir.

Any war I declared ended indecisively for the reason that I had become unlanded, and I had zero manpower, income and population. However, the tribal barons had me as their heir, so when they died, I was able to Settle as Tribal.

It seems like a really weird edge case that produced really weird results.

 

[rageair]

It would be fantastic if you have a savegame before this happens, because it sounds like it's a really hard to reproduce edge case indeed! If you don't have a savegame, please try to describe the situation in as much detail as possible so that we might attempt a repro.

Thanks for the report!

 

[Guancyto]

I have a save a couple of years before it happened; my Khagan is down to his last county and I have minimal holdings and there's a liberation war for Perm going. Later, I Subordination War'd Ugra; the resulting Liberation war combined with the Conquest of my Khagan's last county - those were the ones that finished off the Khaganate.

I also have a save after I console-killed the barons and tribalized; the two holdings I own that aren't the capital are occupied by an unknown coat of arms that corresponds to no nation, but they have an income report and take nomad tax.

Er... forum software won't let me upload either.

 

[Jorlem]

I have a save a couple of years before it happened; my Khagan is down to his last county and I have minimal holdings and there's a liberation war for Perm going. Later, I Subordination War'd Ugra; the resulting Liberation war combined with the Conquest of my Khagan's last county - those were the ones that finished off the Khaganate.

I also have a save after I console-killed the barons and tribalized; the two holdings I own that aren't the capital are occupied by an unknown coat of arms that corresponds to no nation, but they have an income report and take nomad tax.

Er... forum software won't let me upload either.

Upload it to mediafire or some other file hosting site, and post the link. They really should get rid of that upload file button, it just causes confusion.