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Hi Devs, thanks for making Manaw its own De Jure title! I've had a crash-free time after the most recent patch!

TL;DR - 6 Patrician Families in a Republic after a revolt.

Events in the order I remember them:

1 - New Prince Mayor (king level title) elected after previous one died (neither from my Dynasty)
2 - New Prince Mayor attempts to revoke the City of Leighlin (Leinster) from his direct vassal (my kinsman)
3 - My Kinsman, because he comes from strong stock, revolts rather than surrender his city
4 - He calls me into the revolt, I decide taxes will be cheaper and join him
5 - I check the Republic Tab to raise my levies/fleets (I'd already built every building...) to my shock and horror I'm not listed (though I could still raise everything from the Military tab)
6 - Instead of me, there is my kinsman (my current liege as leader of the revolt King-level title) however he doesn't appear to have the right holdings (basic mansion picture and 9/4 of trade ports instead of 13/12) He was not the leader of a Patrician Family on his own before this.
7 - Correlating with the Screenshot I uploaded it is almost as if he was somehow "stuck" in the place where the Adelards family is listed for some reason...I unfortunately don't remember if they were listed (my gut is they weren't) The Prince Mayor we were revolting against wasn't an Adelards either.
8 - We win the war (Yay!) my kinsman goes back to being a normal Mayor of a Grand City - his liege is my liege, the Prince Mayor
9 - check the Republic tab and my mansion and trade posts are hanging off outside the tab...still there and I can select them, but 6 houses instead of 5

Saved everything up at this point so I can put it here if you'd like to check it out...next step is probably lots of assassins though ;)

Its almost as if I left the Republic so the engine spawned another house...but some other bit of code recognized that the family was still part of the Republic and jammed my revolting Kinsman in the Republic view however it could (even though it was in the wrong "slot" as it were). Once the revolt ended and things were normal, the engine reassigned me back to the Republic and every house got its own slot again...but there are now 6 slots instead of 5. Hope that explanation helps!

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Very, very interesting occurrence. I've forwarded this to the Devs. Thanks for the report!
I gained another patrician after this:
I was Venice, vassal of ERE.
There was other republic in Athens (I don't know how it got there, probably mayor got a duchy somehow)
I created Most Serene Republic of Greece
Emperor transferred Republics of Athens to me - I got vassal republic as a republic
After death of the Doge of Athens, next doge became 6th patrician in my republic, while Republic of Athens no longer was a Merchant Republic.
 

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I tried to reproduce what you just said exactly, but I was unable to. Am I missing something or is there something specific that must happen?
 

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I tried to reproduce what you just said exactly, but I was unable to. Am I missing something or is there something specific that must happen?

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?839976-2.3.3-Bizarre-Call-to-Arms

http://cloud-2.steamusercontent.com/ugc/711905526203081462/569220B2038F30CB0B3057C9B2DC0FBCF60BD037/

Issue is that he shouldn't of been called into war in the first place. Revolting patricians have detrimental effects on republics.

I'd actually be interested to see the reason for the revocation, since revoking is really hard as a republic. If the AI is capable of circumventing that mechanic, that could be an additional bug not realised.