[2.3.4] Heir lost to Patrician Venice

[Absimiliard]

The following occurred on my Ironman game with all DLC installed (Sunset Invasion disabled). I've never played as a patrician, so I'm unfailiar with how their mechanics work, but I'm quite sure this is not WAD.

I was playing as the King of Lombardy with agnatic-cognatic gavelkind succession. I had one son (oldest) and two younger daughters. The eldest son had one son. I created a claim on Venice, pressed it, and claimed it. Then I usurped the duchy.

I didn't want to worry about it so I found a coutier with the highest stewardship and granted the duchy to him with holdings.

Immediately after granting the duchy I got a "new heir" message. My grandson was now my heir. "Oh crap!" I thought "My son died!". But this was not the case, he was alive and well, but when I hovered over his image it indicated he was the heir to Venice. I did a quick look online to see if anyone had noted something similar and found a mention that Patrician elections can take a little while to current. I assumed that this was in error and inheritance would resume as normal.

I played for some time and the status never updated (grandson still heir, son still headed for Venice). When I died, sure enough I began play as my grandson. Is this WAD?

One of the fears I have is that my son (heir to Venice) has many holdings in Lombardy which my grandson (current king) is set to inherit upon his demise. At present, the son (Venice) has not inherited Venice yet. If/when he does, what happens to his holdings? Do I need to revoke those titles to ensure their return to Lombardy?

Anyways, I can't help but think that during a patrician election direct successors to the king should not be eligible.

 

[Talq]

It looks like you've destroyed and remade (on granting the duchy) the merchant republic of venice, and when you did so it decided to select your eldest son to lead one of the patrician houses (which makes him ineligible to inherit feudal titles). The game probably shouldn't do that.

 

[Absimiliard]

It looks like you've destroyed and remade (on granting the duchy) the merchant republic of venice, and when you did so it decided to select your eldest son to lead one of the patrician houses (which makes him ineligible to inherit feudal titles). The game probably shouldn't do that.

I figured this was an error. The fear I have now is what will happen to the land the eldest son holds on his inheritance of Venice or upon his death. Will Venice somehow get control of it? Will it pass to my current ruler? I'll post the result, if fear doesn't have me revoke the lands first (if I can).

 

[rageair]

This is interesting, I do believe we've ironed out most issues like this internally. Still, it'd be great if you could provide a save or an easy repro case, so that we'd be able to be 100% sure. Thanks for the report!

 

[Absimiliard]

Unfortunately it was an Ironman game that has continued past the point of inheritance. I cannot provide a useful save now (played another 8 hrs last night). Most of the details are in my original post, the one thing I think I neglected is that I recreated the duchy of Venice in order to grant it. Is it possible that the heir event occurs after the title creation? My game was paused. Is it possible that the events went like 1.Create duchy 2.Assign title 3.Unpause 4.Create heir from event 1?

If that is the case, should the create heir code look not for the creator of the event but the current title holder?

FTA: When I returned to play the 2nd generation (heir to Venice) had another son. The 2nd gen did not inherit Venice after all, someone else did. The lands the 2nd gen owned were inherited by the new son (not the current ruler of Lombardy/oldest son). I plot killed him to retrieve them.