[2.3.3] Granting entire duchies keeps creating republics

[heliostellar]

I'm having a problem where giving a courtier an entire feudal duchy is turning it into a republic. I'm still a tribe. This happened to me with the duchies of Wessex, Flanders, and Gelre. They were all recent holy wars, so I owned the entirety of all the holdings, so there's no reason to think that these were pre-existing republics. The only way to avoid this was to give away a barony -> county -> duchy in that order.

 

[heliostellar]

An addendum. Giving away an entire county to a courtier actually gives away all of the cities, baronies, and churches EXCEPT the capital...

 

[heliostellar]

More info... was successfully able to give away the entire county of Northampton. The only difference with this situation that I can see is that the other "sub holdings" in the Duchy of Essex are held by other characters. So for instance, the other counties are owned by my character (still tribal), but all the extraneous baronies, cities, and churches are not.

 

[heliostellar]

Can someone please acknowledge that this is a bug, please?

 

[Leo Larsson]

Hi heliostellar!

We were unable to reproduce this in our internal version, so this issue might be resolved in the upcoming patches (can't say when though, sorry!)
However, feel free to keep an eye out if you manage to reproduce this issue in the future.

Thanks for reporting!

 

[heliostellar]

Can I ask how you tested this? My theory is that the game engine is getting confused when a tribal leader is giving away feudal titles en masse. If you tried to test this from the TOG start from either of the two Norse characters that are already OPMs in the British Isles I don't think it would work the same. Their capitals are both feudal so they are tribal even though they are both Norse.

 

[heliostellar]

I get this problem pretty consistently. It either creates a republic or a theocracy, but much more often a republic. I have to own all of the holdings within the duchy as well not just be the top liege with baron/bishop/mayor vassals.