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Starting with The Old Gods scenario and after a successful Prepared Invasion, when the choice "four balls to the Raven" is taken as a revenge for the murder of my father, the petty king of Northumbria gets the castrated and blinded traits - but there is no opinion malus; it's as if he's OK with it. None of his family either find anything bad with that option (i.e. nobody dislikes the character for it).
 
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No. Indeed, the bug fix lists frequently include things not reported here at all.

Also, as discussed in the main forum, this is because the event just gives the two traits (incidentally the similar returned Varangian decision also gives no maluses to anybody), while the Greek blinding and castration decisions give both the traits and opinion penalties.
 

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Also, as discussed in the main forum, this is because the event just gives the two traits (incidentally the similar returned Varangian decision also gives no maluses to anybody), while the Greek blinding and castration decisions give both the traits and opinion penalties.

What do you mean by that? It's WAD???
 

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Sometimes we just have a lot of other tesing and balancing we have to prioritise, but thanks for holding out :) I've had this open for a couple of days, but with the release and prerelease of WoL and all. I've reported the four balls, but was there anything in particular in regards to the varangian events? I looked through them and I'm just unsure who you would get the opinion modifier towards in those events.
 

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Sometimes we just have a lot of other tesing and balancing we have to prioritise, but thanks for holding out :) I've had this open for a couple of days, but with the release and prerelease of WoL and all. I've reported the four balls, but was there anything in particular in regards to the varangian events? I looked through them and I'm just unsure who you would get the opinion modifier towards in those events.

Code:
character_event = {
	id = 62951
	title = EVTNAME62951
	desc = EVTDESC62951
	
	picture = GFX_evt_torture
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_war
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA62951 # Blood Eagle
		ai_chance = {
			factor = 100
		}
		FROM = {
			death = {
				death_reason = death_execution
				killer = ROOT
			}
		}
		prestige = 500
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTB62951 # Sacrifice
		ai_chance = {
			factor = 0
		}
		FROM = {
			death = {
				death_reason = death_sacrificed
				killer = ROOT
			}
		}
		piety = 250
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]option = {
		name = EVTOPTC62951 # Blinding & Castration
		trigger = {
			NOT = { lifestyle_traits = 1 }
			NOT = { has_dlc = "Way of Life" }
		}
		ai_chance = {
			factor = 0
		}
		
		prestige = 500
		add_trait = impaler
		
		tooltip = {
			FROM = {
				add_trait = eunuch
				add_trait = blinded
				add_trait = wounded
			}
		}
		hidden_tooltip = {
			FROM = {
				character_event = { id = 62952 }
			}
		}[/COLOR]
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTD62951 # Other plans
		ai_chance = {
			factor = 0
		}
	}
}


character_event = {
	id = 62952
	title = EVTNAME62951
	desc = EVTDESC62952
	
	picture = GFX_evt_torture
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_war
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]option = {
		name = EVTOPTA62952
		add_trait = eunuch
		add_trait = blinded
		add_trait = wounded
		
		hidden_tooltip = {
			opinion = {
				who = FROM
				modifier = opinion_hate
				years = 100
			}
		}[/COLOR]
	}
}

In this event chain, you can choose to castrate and blind. Apparently the opinion modifier is not triggering correctly. Shouldn't it just be hidden and not hidden_tooltip. Not sure exactly.

Does that help you out PeterSkager? Also if OP could confirm that is what the issue is would be great. :)
 

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Sometimes we just have a lot of other tesing and balancing we have to prioritise, but thanks for holding out :) I've had this open for a couple of days, but with the release and prerelease of WoL and all. I've reported the four balls, but was there anything in particular in regards to the varangian events? I looked through them and I'm just unsure who you would get the opinion modifier towards in those events.

Well its the byzantine emperor who I direct my frustration towards if it happens to one of my sons... (this is re the son returns from the varangians less eyes and castrated result)

Slavicist & Dracko81 are talking about 4 balls which you have reported.
 

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Code:
character_event = {
	id = 62951
	title = EVTNAME62951
	desc = EVTDESC62951
	
	picture = GFX_evt_torture
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_war
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA62951 # Blood Eagle
		ai_chance = {
			factor = 100
		}
		FROM = {
			death = {
				death_reason = death_execution
				killer = ROOT
			}
		}
		prestige = 500
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTB62951 # Sacrifice
		ai_chance = {
			factor = 0
		}
		FROM = {
			death = {
				death_reason = death_sacrificed
				killer = ROOT
			}
		}
		piety = 250
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]option = {
		name = EVTOPTC62951 # Blinding & Castration
		trigger = {
			NOT = { lifestyle_traits = 1 }
			NOT = { has_dlc = "Way of Life" }
		}
		ai_chance = {
			factor = 0
		}
		
		prestige = 500
		add_trait = impaler
		
		tooltip = {
			FROM = {
				add_trait = eunuch
				add_trait = blinded
				add_trait = wounded
			}
		}
		hidden_tooltip = {
			FROM = {
				character_event = { id = 62952 }
			}
		}[/COLOR]
	}
	option = {
		name = EVTOPTD62951 # Other plans
		ai_chance = {
			factor = 0
		}
	}
}


character_event = {
	id = 62952
	title = EVTNAME62951
	desc = EVTDESC62952
	
	picture = GFX_evt_torture
	border = GFX_event_normal_frame_war
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]option = {
		name = EVTOPTA62952
		add_trait = eunuch
		add_trait = blinded
		add_trait = wounded
		
		hidden_tooltip = {
			opinion = {
				who = FROM
				modifier = opinion_hate
				years = 100
			}
		}[/COLOR]
	}
}

In this event chain, you can choose to castrate and blind. Apparently the opinion modifier is not triggering correctly. Shouldn't it just be hidden and not hidden_tooltip. Not sure exactly.

Does that help you out PeterSkager? Also if OP could confirm that is what the issue is would be great. :)

Yes; that's it.
 

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Ah! Yes, 62951 was the one I reported, but I didn't catch who you would want to blame, since from what I got from a quick runthrough of the scripts it was just a random action directed towards your son and not a direct character to character interaction. But you might be right Talq, so think I'll report that as well then. Thanks all :) Have a nice christmas everyone.
 
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Ah! Yes, 62951 was the one I reported, but I didn't catch who you would want to blame, since from what I got from a quick runthrough of the scripts it was just a random action directed towards your son and not a direct character to character interaction. But you might be right Talq, so think I'll report that as well then. Thanks all :) Have a nice christmas everyone.

Nice Christmas to you too, PdoX people!!!