[2.2.0.9] & [2.2.0.8] Mongol Empire starts as Gavelkind instead of Ultimogeniture.

[Elleroth]

Not sure if this is a fix or a new change. They've been Ultimogeniture for at least the last 8 months, as indicated by this guide: http://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/1yorfx/a_guide_to_the_khan_of_khans_achievement/

Now they're Gavelkind as of 2.2.0.8 (change not listed in 2.2.0.8 patch notes). In 2.2.0.5 or 2.2.0.6 they had the problem of succession switching from Ultimo to Open-Elective when Genghis died. In 2.2.0.6 or 2.2.0.7 they were fixed and back to Ultimo. In 2.2.0.8 somebody broke them again and made them Gavelkind. In 2.2.0.9, they are still Gavelkind.

 

[Hairy Dude]

Just started a new Mongol Empire game and also found myself stuck on gavelkind, even after converting to Sunni and switching to feudalism via succession. I thought Muslims could only use Agnatic Open succession.

 

[Servancour]

Yeah, I'm guessing this might have to to with the recent fix where they only had the Open Elective law available. I had no difficulties in reproducing the issue. I'll file a report in our database. Thanks for reporting!

 

[richvh]

It may be linked to my report of not being able to specify more than one law in history.

 

[Hairy Dude]

Hit another bug with Mongol Empire today. Mongols start as tribes, of course. If your heir's primary holding after succession is a castle, the realm becomes feudal.. except that no crown authority law is enacted. Since each CA law has another one as prerequisite, it's impossible to set a new CA. It should probably default to autonomous vassals.

Speaking of which, my heir inherited a castle as his primary holding. He should really be getting the capital.

 

[Donelloth]

Hit another bug with Mongol Empire today. Mongols start as tribes, of course. If your heir's primary holding after succession is a castle, the realm becomes feudal.. except that no crown authority law is enacted. Since each CA law has another one as prerequisite, it's impossible to set a new CA. It should probably default to autonomous vassals.

Speaking of which, my heir inherited a castle as his primary holding. He should really be getting the capital.

You should file a separate bug report with a save and screenshot if possible.

 

[Hairy Dude]

Fixed in 2.3. Mongols now start with ultimogeniture.

The other bug seems to be fixed too - fiddling around with the console I got my heir to inherit the capital as his primary holding instead of the feudal title he was given. Don't know about the CA issue, but it's probably moot now.

 

[Hairy Dude]

Update: Still on ultimogeniture after converting to Islam. I don't know if this is intended - normally Muslims can only use open succession.

 

[trusion]

Yes this appears to be still bugged - the Mongols (1220 bookmark), Golden Horde, Il-Khanate, are all unable to change succession laws.
The Timurids, however, are able to change succession laws if they show.
In addition, the Aztecs are also unable to change the succession law.

This is related to the landless = yes tag - it is in common to the 4 problematic titles (and Timurids do not have that set). This is easily verified by modding another title (say the HRE) with this flag also results in said title being unable to change succession laws.