[2.2.0.4] Gavelkind giving de jure capital and ALL other counties away

[Woopzilla]

I'm the King of Ireland and own the de jure capital duchy and de jure capital county. I also own a second duchy and have 2 counties within that.

Upon death the game gives away ALL of my holdings to my 2nd and 3rd born sons. I only keep the kingdom and de jure capital duchy - but no counties. The game then randomly hijacks a county from one of my vassals in order to avoid a landless King. Needless to say, this seems completely unintentional behaviour. Additionally, my brothers get all the highly upgraded counties with lots of tech while I get a terrible and unupgraded county... I've basically lost all my power and of course everyone wants to rebel against me or declare war.

After a few reloads, it seems that the county it gives me is always the county of Shrewsbury, hijacked from the Duke of Powys.

My heir:

My capital being given away:

Shrewsbury is my new capital:

Save: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4zaabglzkuay1h2/Eire855 Capital being given away gavelkind.ck2?dl=0

And somewhat related to what I said about wars/rebelling: I don't think the AI has a good grasp of judging your strength since tribal vassals don't get counted in the potential army size number. I keep getting attacked by single-county Counts and small Chiefs when I can call upon several thousand tribal vassal armies (not in this particular session, but when I play in east europe). A single count forming a faction in my kingdom is also instantly said to have "80%" of my strength half the times when they stand absolutely zero chance to win.

 

[Horrux]

I think I have something similar happen in a game of mine, recently:

Recently I had the empire of Bengal, with 5 or 6 kingdoms in it. Succession is gavelkind. I have 4 sons. As their father, I have 13 counties, and I gave a number of fiefs to each of them already, except my heir has only one county, coz I can't give him any more, and I was trying to kill him off at war. Anyway, so daddy dies, and the heir gets the empire, the smallest kingdom and keeps that ONE county. His brother got *3* kingdoms and an obscene number of counties.

So now, Gavelkind == get very lucky or gbye.

Posted here, look in the first post, below the screenshot : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?810718-Not-sure-they-are-all-bugs-but-here-goes...

 

[Woopzilla]

An update: The issue seems to fix itself if my character has a 4th son... it then started to correctly give Dublin to my heir. There's something messing it up by just having 3 (and maybe more than 4) heirs.

As another example from the same game, the Kingdom of Wales is destroyed when the King of Wales dies. He has 3 sons and only 1 county. The Kingdom is going to his firstborn and the only county is going to his second born.

Save: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbcnq02wwhwdxii/king of wales death shatters kingdom.ck2?dl=0

This is an old issue that has apparently been re-introdcued to the game. I've reported it before and it was fixed for a time: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...velkind-bug-Kingdom-destroyed-upon-succession

Gavelkind, balance issues aside, is just simply broken right now.

 

[jellyfish99]

Copied from the 2.2.0.4 beta thread as something very similar broke my game:

First, King of Navarra holds the duchy of Navarra but no counties in the duchy. The primary duchy is another one, not part of dejure Navarra: On succession the eldest inherits the Kingdom and the county of Navarra (not previously held). Younger brothers inherit the duchy of Navarra as well as the previous primary duchy, splitting the counties within it between themselves, including the previous defacto capital. Why did the heir get a county not actually held by his father, but not the defacto capital county? Why did he not inherit the primary duchy? Why did he not get any duchy?!

Second, completely game breaking: King of Navarra holds the Kingdom but no duchy (see above), holds two counties in dejure Navarra (conquest). On succession, the eldest son gets no titles (!) just a claim on the Kingdom, the second and third get a county each. Focus moves to the second son, a single county count, as oldest son is landless. The Kingdom of Navarra has dissolved. Why did the eldest not inherit the Kingdom and its (dejure and defacto) capital?!

I could see a Kingdom dissolving through a succession crisis somehow, but this just seems very broken.

I also frequently see younger siblings listed as heirs to baronies that are the only holding in a county (though I have yet to see this cause problems on succession).

 

[Woopzilla]

Just giving this a bump as it's drifted to almost the 4th page while other threads before this are getting a reply!

Gavelkind is destryoing kingdom titles and giving away capitals at the moment as explained with both of my posts above + saves.

 

[Dono1979]

This still appears to be happening. I own my own Kingdom (custom) which control all of the Duchy of Provence, King of Western Francia dies, splits kingdom, CREATES Kingdom of Burgandy, Provence is made the Capital and is taken from my control and given to the new King, even though I was in direct control of it. A year latter, my Merchant Republic creates the Kingdom of Aquetaine even though he doesnt own anywhere near enough and becomes independant without any war.....

 

[Horrux]

I've been going to the trouble of changing the successions to Primogeniture in order to circumvent this bug... Requires quite the adjustment in play style... :/

 

[Dono1979]

That's the thing though, its not MY Kingdom which is Gavelkind and doing it to me, it is the AI's. They are taking land off ME due to THEIR successions.

 

[Horrux]

That's the thing though, its not MY Kingdom which is Gavelkind and doing it to me, it is the AI's. They are taking land off ME due to THEIR successions.

Aw crap, this hasn't happened to me yet... :O