2.1 is now out!

[dharper]

I have a few questions:

Homewaters are now only valid for controlled territory.

What does this mean?

Overseas territory now is worth half of its current value for peace.

Has the actual peace AI been changed other than this? For example, will it still be possible to make demands without firing a shot when you are much larger than the enemy, or to demand everything they have if you defeat them utterly?

 

[SirGrotius]

I have a few questions:

What does this mean?

Has the actual peace AI been changed other than this? For example, will it still be possible to make demands without firing a shot when you are much larger than the enemy, or to demand everything they have if you defeat them utterly?

Re: the peace logic, it's my understanding that if a nation has an untouched army, they won't be amenable to peace terms. Also, if you crush them utterly, you can't demand everything because of a 100% cap (i.e., doing more pushes above 100, which they'd never accept).

 

[Hiram_Maxim]

I suspect 'homewaters' are the coastal provinces in which attirition to your naval units are slowed.

 

[Markus III]

I suspect 'homewaters' are the coastal provinces in which attirition to your naval units are slowed.

Yeah, I definitely think so, too.

 

[kfijatass]

I suspect 'homewaters' are the coastal provinces in which attirition to your naval units are slowed.

Ummm no. Homewater sets your naval attrition to 0. As far as im concerned it won't work for occupied provinces, but only the OWNED provinces.

 

[alvya]

Ummm no. Homewater sets your naval attrition to 0. As far as im concerned it won't work for occupied provinces, but only the OWNED provinces.

Yes. And that is the quid. IMHO now it work in OWNED and CONTROLLED provinces. Both conditions, not only owned.
There is another option. It changes owned by controlled. So you can control a province and automatically the coastal provinces become homewater

 

[Nikolai]

*sigh*

My computer is on service atm. So little NA or DV playing for me these days... I'm using my mom's computer right now and there I have a EU3 1.2 installation, so I DLed NA to this machine and patched it to 2.1. But something is not right. When I started a new game, the loading screen got all messy, then the map showed up, looking like it had met something very fast, very hard. And when I clicked on the map, I got a CTD. And my EU3 CD in in my apartment in the other side of the city...

 

[dharper]

Re: the peace logic, it's my understanding that if a nation has an untouched army, they won't be amenable to peace terms. Also, if you crush them utterly, you can't demand everything because of a 100% cap (i.e., doing more pushes above 100, which they'd never accept).

Excellent news! I was tired of the Ottomans being able to force countries to release vassals simply because they were fifty times their size, and it sounds like force-vassalizing France, Ming or Russia are now in the past.

I suspect 'homewaters' are the coastal provinces in which attirition to your naval units are slowed.

Thanks! Silly me, I thought that this feature was in EU3 already - whenever one of my provinces was occupied, I immediately removed my navies from its waters. o

 

[MJAnderson]

Not sure if that would change anything, I think. You have to be within range to colonize it, not just to discover it. I think.

The problem was the minors finding out about a province due to the spread of discoveries and colonizing it without ever exploring. Reduce the discovery spread and you fix the problem.

 

[Kazmir]

Thanks! Silly me, I thought that this feature was in EU3 already - whenever one of my provinces was occupied, I immediately removed my navies from its waters. o

Yes but I think, please correct me if I am wrong, that now when you occupy an enemy province your ships won't get the attrition free 'home waters' modifier when on coast of such province, which they used to get.

 

[Vordus]

umm, are the sea suppose to be white now? :/

 

[Nikolai]

Only when it's not explored.

 

[SirGrotius]

umm, are the sea suppose to be white now? :/

Colonization should be slowed now, so there should be more PTI. If even European waters or whatever's close to your territory is white, too, then you might want to try a fresh re-install!

 

[Vordus]

I mean like this.

 

[Mr. G]

Well, you seems to use a mod.

 

[Van Diemen]

A minor issue that I discovered just minutes ago: why do all the provinces that are colonized or national have shipyards, when starting the game in 1650? The above screenshot illustrates this nicely BTW.

 

[dharper]

umm, are the sea suppose to be white now? :/

You probably need to reinstall the TOT mod. My oceans turned white when I first installed NA, so I'm guessing the new patch does the same thing.

 

[Tyon]

It do not like me
Is this a common problem?

(yes, i have installed it)

Same for me.
And i just made a reinstall a few days ago. No Mods are installed oO


Is it possible that EU3 has to be installed to C:\program...... instead of a self given directory?



Sorry for my english i just woke up

 

[Mr. G]

Same for me.
And i just made a reinstall a few days ago. No Mods are installed oO


Is it possible that EU3 has to be installed to C:\program...... instead of a self given directory?



Sorry for my english i just woke up

Reinstall NA only. I had a problem with the register.

 

[unmerged(84859)]

Reinstall NA only. I had a problem with the register.

Weird shit, will try it.