[2.1] Civic Trait Elimination

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Corporate Dominion 20
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IP isn’t bad at all, but the only way you can win with it is by exploiting the fact that the game considers Habitats to be planets and building 90 of them. Pass.
 

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Corporate Dominion 18 (-2) Democracy has Unity, Empire has stability, Oligarhy has what?
Mining Guilds 49 (+1) Mining guild has minerals.
 

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Egalitarian has better unity output than Authoritarian, Corp Dominion trades the resource with the least uses for the most important thing in early expansion allowing minerals to be saved for more important things, like ships and stations.
 

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Let me play devil's advocate for oligarchy. I used to consider it the strongest for of government for a long time, granted that was in earlier patches. But still I feel some of things that made it good once are still true and so I think I can try to highlight some of it's advantages.

Oligarchy has agendas and the ability to change rulers when it still matters. With dictatorship or imperial you're just shit out of luck if you roll a bad agenda and / or ruler because you'll never change your leader in time for it to be relevant. And democracy just doesn't have agenda's at all. Also imperial was always terrible for as long as I remember. And probably still is but to be fair I think the last time I played a full imperial run must've been 1.5 or something.

Now, as I already mentioned, I considered oligarchy to be a lot better back when you didn't need influence for everything. Can't really pay 200 every 20 years in 2.1, at best you'll do it once or twice, if it really matters and you happen to have it. But even if you never use that option and always random between all candidates it's actually okay. Dictatorship is like oligarchy's high risk high reward option. With oligarchy, if your current ruler is great they'll probably be replaced with someone more mediocre in 20 years. And they are terrible then the same happens. Tends to average out to "okay".

There's an argument to be made for sacrificing your chance at 80 years of great rulers for avoiding 80 years of terrible rulers. It probably depends on the specifics but that's a trade off that can be worth it in my mind. Oh, and If, for some reason, you were swimming in influence then oligarchy is pretty great. But also I don't know why you would ever be swimming in influence in 2.0+
 

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Parliamentary System 19 (+1)
Slaver Guilds 7

Parliamentary due to being one of the best ways of gaining influence.

Corp Dom while good and maintaining energy requires a lot of investment, and requires you to go fairly wide to maximise the benefits, which you need influence for.
 

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Corporate Dominion 17
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lol Inward Perfection still here. Upvoting Slaver Guilds because in no way should it go before IP.
 

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lol Inward Perfection still here. Upvoting Slaver Guilds because in no way should it go before IP.
Just so you’re aware, it’s +1 not +2.
Fixed stats below:

Inward Perfection 7
Mechanist 38
Mining Guilds 51
Parliamentary System 21
Slaver Guilds 6
 

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Corporate Dominion 13
Inward Perfection 7
Mechanist 38
Mining Guilds 51
Parliamentary System 22 (+1)
Slaver Guilds 4 (-2)


Because, personally, I'd take IP before slaver guilds.
 

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Corporate Dominion 9 (-2), trade 300 energy for 300 minerals
Mining Guilds 52 (+1) or get 10% minerals for anything
 

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Corporate Dominion 9
Inward Perfection 8
Mechanist 38
Mining Guilds 52
Parliamentary System 23 (+1)
Slaver Guilds 2 (-2)

The thread seems to be slowing down.
 
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Parliamentary System 24 (+1)
Slaver Guilds 0 (-2)

Probably because most of these don't matter so much anymore - f.e Robots are nerfed, and Corporate Dominion doesn't exist anymore if you have Megacorp.

Anyhoo, it's been emotional Slaver Guilds.

EDIT: Corrected previous score
 

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Corporate Dominion 9
Inward Perfection 6 (-2)
Mechanist 38
Mining Guilds 53 (+1)
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I honestly don't care wether Corp.Dom or Inw.P. goes first. I choose to dump Inw.P. because it restricts your options in case an opportunity or a need for protection arises.
 

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Corporate Dominion 10 (+1)
Inward Perfection 4 (-2)
Mechanist 38
Mining Guilds 53
Parliamentry System 24

Corp dominion in 2.1 was hands down one of the best civics because private colony ships are one of the best things for early expansion. Downvoting IP becase something has to be down voted.
 

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Corporate Dominion 10
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Mining Guilds 53
Parliamentary System 24

I have nothing new to say on this point. Inward Perfection is very powerful, but it hamstrings you. The other choices are just powerful.

Edit: Plus fixing the spelling on Parliamentary.