[2.1] Civic Trait Elimination

[avsbes]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Aristocratic Elite 4
Beacon of Liberty 12
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 13
Distinguished Admiralty 7
Environmentalist 1
Functional Architecture 11 (-2)
Inward Perfection 24
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 15
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 14
Mechanist 28 (+1)
Syncretic Evolution 14

At the Moment, Functional Architecture seems not as strong as for example Mining Guilds, cause the huge Number of Minerals spent is not on buildings, but on fleet and fleet upkeep. Mining Guilds helps for Buildings and for Fleet, FA does not.
Mechanist gives you Robots from the start which can be used to extremely efficient exploit ground minerals and also gives you a headstart towards synth ascension which still is incredibly strong.

 

[Archon87]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Aristocratic Elite 4
Beacon of Liberty 12
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 13
Distinguished Admiralty 7
Environmentalist -1 (-2) ELIMINATED
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 25 (+1)
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 15
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 14
Mechanist 28
Syncretic Evolution 14

I'll deliver the killing blow to Environmentalist, since it doesn't do much to reduce minerals spent. Upkeep isn't that big of a concern, especially if you aren't running Utopian Abundance plus wasteful.

Inward Perfection does its job well, allowing the isolationist playstyle while giving nifty growth and happiness bonuses.

 

[Siri]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Aristocratic Elite 5 (+1)
Beacon of Liberty 12
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 13
Distinguished Admiralty 5 (-2)
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 25
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 15
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 14
Mechanist 28
Syncretic Evolution 14

Out of the leader related civics that remain, Distinguished Admiralty is easily the worst, between requiring militarist and the leader type it provides its bonus to. At least until you get level 10 governors, because that's easily the most important leader type when it comes to levels.

Giving the plus to Aristocratic Elite because it should at least remain for longer than Distinguished Admiralty and Meritocracy.

 

[Sheriff Godwin Law]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Aristocratic Elite 5
Beacon of Liberty 12
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 11 (-2)
Distinguished Admiralty 5
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 25 (+1)
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 15
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 14
Mechanist 29 (+1)
Syncretic Evolution 14

Cut Throat politics gives a reduction to the cost of edicts. It's just Imperial Cult but useable by a wider range of empires and a bit more flexible. So minus 2

Mechanist is still super buff. Plus 1

 

[Siri]

Cut Throat politics gives a reduction to the cost of edicts. It's just Imperial Cult but useable by a wider range of empires and a bit more flexible. So minus 2

This is an incorrect assessment. Cutthroat Politics is magnitudes more potent than Imperial Cult is, even if the latter had no restrictions at all. Not only does it scale better with additional bonuses of the same type, but it also applies to edicts that have no duration. If you have no other bonuses to cost or duration at all, sure, they're mostly the same, but duration bonuses are very common in comparison to lowered cost. Duration is even a bonus just from ruler levels so even right off the bat it is worse, and will just grow farther apart as the game progresses.

They buff essentially the same thing, sure, but it's pretty much like comparing Mining Guilds to Functional Architecture or Environmentalist.

 

[Cat_Fuzz]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Aristocratic Elite 5
Beacon of Liberty 10 (+2)
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 11
Distinguished Admiralty 5
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 25
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16 (+1)
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 14
Mechanist 29
Syncretic Evolution 14

Up voting Parliamentary System again as it really is a huge influence buff, especially with when your Ruler is heading up a faction that's got positives throughout - useful for edicts and claims.

I'm voting down Beacon of Liberty as Unity can be buffed fairly easily with some early Traditions.

(Also I'm looking forward to when we inevitably vote on the new Civics in 2.2)

 

[Lord Beyer XVII]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Aristocratic Elite 3(-2)
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 11
Distinguished Admiralty 5
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 25
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15(+1)
Mechanist 29
Syncretic Evolution 14

Leader cap and level is not valuable enough to be worth one entire civic slot. Maybe as a starter, that will get changed around early midgame (lets say as soon as you get a third civic slot, so you have to spend 250 influence anyway).
Fanatic Purifier on the other hand disables the most useless thing currently existing: diplomacy. So, by not wasting your time on diplomacy, your survival and success probability rises exponentially

 

[Enska]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Aristocratic Elite 1 (-2)
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 11
Distinguished Admiralty 5
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 26 (+1)
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 29
Syncretic Evolution 14

 

[Pootino]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Aristocratic Elite -1 (-2) REMOVED
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 11
Distinguished Admiralty 5
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 26
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 30 (+1)
Syncretic Evolution 14

Will be more useful in 2.2 but right now it's just another "Leader cap increase" civic with barely any use except rp.

 

[C.N.]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 12 (+1)
Distinguished Admiralty 3 (-2)
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 26
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 30
Syncretic Evolution 14

 

[Vynlanesh]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 12
Distinguished Admiralty 1 (-2)
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 26
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 30
Syncretic Evolution 15 (+1)

 

[klingonadmiral]

Agrarian Idyll 13
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 12
Distinguished Admiralty 0 (-2) *BLAM*
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 26
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 31 (+1)
Syncretic Evolution 15

There goes the last of the leader-focused civics. Maybe with 2.2 they'll become better.

There was a time where I considered any non-Mechanist start inherently handicapped, and while I no longer hold as strong an opinion I still regard it was a very strong pick. Perhaps not quite as good as Mining Guilds, but close. Basically a must in my opinion if you want to go Synthetic, as it speeds up your paths to Synths and makes all your robotic pops cheaper.

 

[Ancillary]

Agrarian Idyll 11 (-2)
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 13 (+1)
Functional Architecture 11
Inward Perfection 26
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 31
Syncretic Evolution 15

Cutthroat Politics deserves more support. In the late game it can allow you to run an extra ambition all by itself.

None of the civics are bad at this point. I choose to downvote Agrarian Idyll for two reasons:

• Fanatic Pacifist is more crippling to the stated criteria of this contest than any other ethos.
• Surplus food has limited utility.

 

[evilcat]

Agrarian Idyll 12 (+1)
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 13
Functional Architecture 9 (-2)
Inward Perfection 26
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 31
Syncretic Evolution 15

Agrarian Idyll 12 (+1), having that +3Unity from the start, could make double the speed of Tradicions, which is great to take Harmony first, or science.
Functional Architecture 9 (-2), early on outpost are main speniding, later on ships.

EDIT: fixed that 112, but do not underestimate Ararian Idyll, Inward Perfection META!

 

[Methone]

Agrarian Idyll 112 (+1)
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 13
Functional Architecture 9 (-2)
Inward Perfection 26
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 31
Syncretic Evolution 15

Agrarian Idyll 112 (+1)
Functional Architecture 9 (-2)

Uh, I don't think Agrarian Idyll is supposed to be 112

 

[Sigma 582]

I'll pretend Sunday hasn't ended yet and place my Sunday vote

Agrarian Idyll 12
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 13
Functional Architecture 7 (-2)
Inward Perfection 27 (+1)
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 31
Syncretic Evolution 15

Functional Architecture is not totally useless and I sometimes take it for the sake of diversity or RP, but out of the remaining civics it's one of the weakest.
Inward Perfection is good for its swaps, and bonuses too. Everything is pretty much said before.

 

[lwarmonger]

I'll pretend Sunday hasn't ended yet and place my Sunday vote

In the US Sunday hasn't ended yet, so you are good.

 

[bunkerman]

Agrarian Idyll 13 (+1)
Beacon of Liberty 10
Citizen Service 17
Corporate Dominion 19
Cutthroat Politics 13
Functional Architecture 5 (-2)
Inward Perfection 27
Meritocracy 12
Mining Guilds 36
Parliamentary System 16
Slaver Guilds 18
Fanatic Purifiers 15
Mechanist 31
Syncretic Evolution 15

 

[Sheriff Godwin Law]

They buff essentially the same thing, sure, but it's pretty much like comparing Mining Guilds to Functional Architecture or Environmentalist.

Correction accepted. Cuthroat Politics is far more potent than I conveyed and the fault for my hasty words was my own.

I'm still going to be voting it down as it's still a buff to edicts, the place you dump resources.

 

[C.N.]

There goes the last of the leader-focused civics. Maybe with 2.2 they'll become better.

No, it was not the last. Meritocracy is still on the list.