1935 scenario?

[Razor]

Yesterday I made a copy of the 1936 scenario, renamed it "1935" and changed the start year to 1935. The reason was that I wanted to give the human player (me) a head start in research and production of "expensive" stuff as a minor nation. I thought that the AI would not research anything in advance. I was wrong. A few times during the game I loaded up as a major nation (Germany) and saw that the AI researched and produced about the same stuff as usual, however one year or more in advance.

I also noted that trading was different. In the 1936 scenario I have learned what resources to trade with specific nations to get good deals but this did not apply at all in my 1935 scenario. Also hard coded embargos was not active (like Norways embargo against Sweden and Soviet). I then thought that this would change when I reached january 1 1936 but it did not.

Why is this?

 

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Yesterday I made a copy of the 1936 scenario, renamed it "1935" and changed the start year to 1935. The reason was that I wanted to give the human player (me) a head start in research and production of "expensive" stuff as a minor nation. I thought that the AI would not research anything in advance. I was wrong. A few times during the game I loaded up as a major nation (Germany) and saw that the AI researched and produced about the same stuff as usual, however one year or more in advance.

Why would you think that the AI didn't research anything in 1935?

 

[Razor]

Why would you think that the AI didn't research anything in 1935?

As I recall all the techs are 1936 or later and I thought that the AI never researched anything before the "target" year since there is a malus for doing that.

 

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As I recall all the techs are 1936 or later and I thought that the AI never researched anything before the "target" year since there is a malus for doing that.

Are you sure about that?
So, for example Germany, don't they research techs in 1936 that have a target-year of above that year, if that is true they don't have a lot to research in 1936.
But you are probably right about that, according to what you said.

 

[Razor]

Are you sure about that?
So, for example Germany, don't they research techs in 1936 that have a target-year of above that year, if that is true they don't have a lot to research in 1936.
But you are probably right about that, according to what you said.

Yes, I'm a bit confused too. I will compare tonight or tomorrow night with a standard 1936 scenario and se what the German AI research. Maybe the AI research in advance and pay the extra time it will take or maybe the AI do not get a malus at all?

There ought to be be someone on this forum that could explain how it works.

 

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I have seen the ai research well ahead of historical years for several techs. Germany would be a good example. I believe it happens when the AI has run out of techs for any earlier years that it can research. That is why you often see countries researching Improved Machinetools (a '37 tech) already in 1936. Also note that some techs are removed from the research list for some AIs, so you end up with AI ignoring certain techs and researching those of a later date.
I think I even saw the French research Advanced Construction Engineering already in 1936.

 

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Yes, I'm a bit confused too. I will compare tonight or tomorrow night with a standard 1936 scenario and se what the German AI research. Maybe the AI research in advance and pay the extra time it will take or maybe the AI do not get a malus at all?

There ought to be be someone on this forum that could explain how it works.

I believe the AI does suffer the researching ahead of time penalty the same as human players do. At least they do appear to take a longer over the techs that are researched ahead of time, but I have not varified this. It is possible that the best team for that research project was already taken.

 

[Razor]

I have seen the ai research well ahead of historical years for several techs. Germany would be a good example. I believe it happens when the AI has run out of techs for any earlier years that it can research. That is why you often see countries researching Improved Machinetools (a '37 tech) already in 1936. Also note that some techs are removed from the research list for some AIs, so you end up with AI ignoring certain techs and researching those of a later date.
I think I even saw the French research Advanced Construction Engineering already in 1936.

Ok, then we have an answer. The AI makes sure it's research slots are busy all the time.

Now, what about the trading issue I mention above:

I also noted that trading was different. In the 1936 scenario I have learned what resources to trade with specific nations to get good deals but this did not apply at all in my 1935 scenario. Also hard coded embargos was not active (like Norways embargo against Sweden and Soviet). I then thought that this would change when I reached january 1 1936 but it did not.