1914-1924 'British interests; British honour; British obligations'

[TC Pilot]

It's not over yet.

 

[unmerged(10426)]

A damn nice thing.

I'm not sure how the Dolchstoßlegende will fare in this TL, since there was no complete overthrow of the old order, and the army was still 'undefeated'; although there was sufficent pressure applied to bring 'peace from below.' In time, of course, the Regent will have to give his endorsement, however tepid, to any peace treaty and be seen to take a role in any emergent parliamentarianism.

There's also a question of the Imperial states - I assume that there will be a great desire now to prevent any abdications there - a Germany of republican federal units with Prussia as the only monarchy would be incongruous, not to say dangerous to Prussia. Ludwig III may have feld from Bavaria under the pressure of Eisner, but I doubt that Bavaria will have seen the last of the Witteslbachs! Of course, without a complete overthrow of the old order, there'll be demands for serious constitutional reform, particularly at the Imperial level and in Prussia - should be interesting to see how that pans out.

 

[Sir Humphrey]

Can it be? Can it really be? The war is really over? *shocked*. Fighting the peace will be just as hard, though probably with lesser loss of life.

 

[Kurt_Steiner]

What? Really? Is it over?

I was't even looking!


Now, the hardest part: peacetime...

 

[Sir Humphrey]

It will have to be restarted by enterprising individuals. *nods*

 

[unmerged(10426)]

The war is really over? *shocked*.

Well, until Kitchener leads a twelve million man army into Russia to liquidate Bolshevism and create a powerbase for Curzon's emergent position as Viceroy of the World and First Lord of Well, You Know, Pretty Much Everything, before invading the Moon, then yes, the war is over.

Earl Kitchener, of Khartoum and of Broome, and of Button Moon. Taken after his 'Spoon' anti-insurgency campaign.​

Just remember: there are always more natives to oppress, somewhere.

 

[Earl Uhtred]

Great picture of Kitchener thar.

 

[TheExecuter]

Hip Hip...HOOORAY!

...and now a moment of silence for the dead...

TheExecuter

 

[Fapu]

Well this AAR lasts almost as long as WW1,that can't be coincidance ^^

 

[unmerged(10426)]

Oh, a slight error I spotted: Eitel Friedrich is refered to as Wilhelm II's eldest son, when it should be second-eldest.

 

[VILenin]

Wow, Germany has finally been layed low. I amlmost didn't expect it to ever happen, even with the progress you'd been making on the Western Front. VJ's right, though, now you need to find something else to occupy your army wth.

 

[Vann the Red]

Splendidly conducted war, Allenby, and beautifully written. I eagerly anticipate the post-war roundup!

Vann

 

[Prufrock451]

And we reach the halfway point!

At the intermission, let me applaud you so far. This AAR is one of the greatest accomplishments of this community, Allenby. Congratulations.

 

[RossN]

Bravo, a well fought war sir. Now the hard part: the peace.

So will Ireland be made a Dominion? Even given the diminished bitterness over the Easter Rising (compared with OTL) I doubt the Irish would be entirely happy with mere Home Rule after the long war.

 

[aussieboy]

Heil dir im Siegerkranz,
Herrscher des Vaterlands!
Heil, Kaiser, dir!
Fühl in des Thrones Glanz
Die hohe Wonne ganz,
Liebling des Volks zu sein!
Heil Kaiser, dir!

Nicht Roß und Reisige
Sichern die steile Höh',
Wo Fürsten steh'n:
Liebe des Vaterlands,
Liebe des freien Manns
Gründen den Herrscher Thron
Wie Fels im Meer.

Heilige Flamme, glüh',
Glüh' und erlösche nie
Fürs Vaterland!
Wir alle stehen dann
Mutig für einen Mann,
Kämpfen und bluten gern
Für Thron und Reich!

Handel und Wissenschaft
Heben mit Mut und Kraft
Ihr Haupt empor!
Krieger- und Heldentat
Finden ihr Lorbeerblatt
Treu aufgehoben dort,
An deinem Thron!

Dauernder stets zu blüh'n
Weh' unsre Flagge kühn
Auf hoher See!
Ha, wie so stolz und hehr
Wirft über Land und Meer
Weithin der deutsche Aar
Flammenden Blick.

Sei, Kaiser Wilhelm, hier
Lang' deines Volkes Zier,
Der Menschheit Stolz!
Fühl' in des Thrones Glanz,
Die hohe Wonne ganz,
Liebling des Volkes zu sein!
Heil, Kaiser, dir!

Yes! The Empire still holds! You hear that, you idot of an Austrian corporal? That's the sound of Nazidom taking a nosedive - and I don't mean any divebombers...

 

[unmerged(11031)]

It's over? It can't be over!

 

[Haarken]

There is another six years to go surely if the title of this thread is anything to go by?

I've loved every single post of this AAR, it's taking some timed to read but it was well worth every second. A great AAR Allenby.

Haarken

 

[Allenby]

Wootage indeed!

A most interesting contrast between Roosevelt's "Three Points" the SWC "Eight Points" and that buffoon Wilson's "Fourteen Points". To the surprise of no-one I do of course believe the Eight Points to be the infinitely superior.

It also appears the Hohenzollern dynasty has a good stab of surviving with the Kaiser gone. As I read it the complaints were against the man not the institution, so Kaiser Willy III may last. Assuming Germany holds together of course...

Given the peace negotiations and events to the East I suspect (and hope) the AAR is far from over. *Finger crossed*

The complaints were initially against the man and not the institution but as the man in question was as stubborn as a mule, some of the criticism was drawn upon the monarchy itself. The rule of the Hohenzollerns may continue; Germany may hold together.

And worry not, there is still plenty to be written about here.

I also hope this is just the latest great installment and not the last ,i think and hope its just Allenby building suspense,prior to some more great stuff in the east that all TGW mod players know is yet to come!!!!

A Great AAR and a fantastic mod to play thanks Allenby!!!

Good luck at the front!!!

Thank you so much! As I have mentioned just above, there is plenty to chronicle before this is done. God knows how long it will take.

I don't believe it, the bloody limeys win somehow....I mean, uh, nice job, Allenby.

Exposed as a German spy. I shall have you shot.

It's not over yet.

Indeed so. Might peace negotiations break down and lead to a resumption of hostilities?

I'm not sure how the Dolchstoßlegende will fare in this TL, since there was no complete overthrow of the old order, and the army was still 'undefeated'; although there was sufficent pressure applied to bring 'peace from below.' In time, of course, the Regent will have to give his endorsement, however tepid, to any peace treaty and be seen to take a role in any emergent parliamentarianism.

There's also a question of the Imperial states - I assume that there will be a great desire now to prevent any abdications there - a Germany of republican federal units with Prussia as the only monarchy would be incongruous, not to say dangerous to Prussia. Ludwig III may have feld from Bavaria under the pressure of Eisner, but I doubt that Bavaria will have seen the last of the Witteslbachs! Of course, without a complete overthrow of the old order, there'll be demands for serious constitutional reform, particularly at the Imperial level and in Prussia - should be interesting to see how that pans out.

The demands for constitutional reform are already underway.

As for the Hohenzollerns, at the present, they are captives of the SPD and those pressing for democratic reforms - there is little room for the Regent to frustrate movements for reform without incurring the risk of a republic.

If Ludwig III cannot be restored to his throne in Bavaria, some compromise may have to be reached. In fact, Prussians may regard it as an opportunity to jettison the troublesome, peculiar, Catholic southern Germans.

Can it be? Can it really be? The war is really over? *shocked*. Fighting the peace will be just as hard, though probably with lesser loss of life.

Hopefully. At least, that's the point of agreeing peace, anyway. Who would have thought that after years of vigorous writing that this war would come to an end?

What? Really? Is it over?

I was't even looking!


Now, the hardest part: peacetime...

Exactly! The arguments over peace. Precisely the reason for carrying the AAR through to the end.

Well, until Kitchener leads a twelve million man army into Russia to liquidate Bolshevism and create a powerbase for Curzon's emergent position as Viceroy of the World and First Lord of Well, You Know, Pretty Much Everything, before invading the Moon, then yes, the war is over.

Indeed. It might just happen.

Great picture of Kitchener thar.

Suspiciously boss-eyed too!

Maybe he is one of David Icke's lizards?

 

[Allenby]

Hip Hip...HOOORAY!

...and now a moment of silence for the dead...

TheExecuter

Well this AAR lasts almost as long as WW1,that can't be coincidance ^^

A testament to my laziness, probably.

Oh, a slight error I spotted: Eitel Friedrich is refered to as Wilhelm II's eldest son, when it should be second-eldest.

Pedant. Do you want a reward, or something?

Wow, Germany has finally been layed low. I amlmost didn't expect it to ever happen, even with the progress you'd been making on the Western Front. VJ's right, though, now you need to find something else to occupy your army wth.

Ideally, I would like to demobilise them and send them back home to their families and friends so that they can take up productive, peaceful lives! Woe betide the politician who attempts to take the army on another adventure.

Splendidly conducted war, Allenby, and beautifully written. I eagerly anticipate the post-war roundup!

Thank you! It has been a pleasure. I can guarantee that post-war events will be given greater coverage than just a round-up.

And we reach the halfway point!

At the intermission, let me applaud you so far. This AAR is one of the greatest accomplishments of this community, Allenby. Congratulations.

Thank you for your kind words. Such compliments make it worthwhile to continue this to the very end - whenever that might be...

So will Ireland be made a Dominion? Even given the diminished bitterness over the Easter Rising (compared with OTL) I doubt the Irish would be entirely happy with mere Home Rule after the long war.

Ireland is currently governed by a Central Board of IPP men appointed by London. Home Rule is due to be implemented after the war, but as you mention, this may be superceded. Much hinges upon the outcome of the next general election.

Yes! The Empire still holds! You hear that, you idot of an Austrian corporal? That's the sound of Nazidom taking a nosedive - and I don't mean any divebombers...

The Empire holds, just about. Now can it last? Germany is in turmoil, the Bavarian throne overthrown and the German government headed by a twelve year old. The future is far from certain.

It's over? It can't be over!

It's over! Well, the war is at any rate.

There is another six years to go surely if the title of this thread is anything to go by?

I've loved every single post of this AAR, it's taking some timed to read but it was well worth every second. A great AAR Allenby.

Six more years, yes - although don't expect them to be accounted for in the same exhaustive manner as 1914-1918.

I am glad that you feel that the chore of reading this has been worthwhile. I sincerely hope that you keep track of the updates posted here.

 

[Lord E]

Great work Allenby, impressive indeed. So you have won and peace has arrived, but I still se many great struggles ahead. A peace-conference where everyone wants to grab all they can, a Germany filled with internal troubles and possibly also revolution. Maybe this Wilhelm III will not reign for long, but be forced away by communists and republicans, and what will then happen…
Looking forward to see how all this works out, and I do hope that this time around the British will get their hands on the Germany fleet and stop the Germans from scuttling it