19 stewardship!!!

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Once I though that 16 was the absolute maximum for a skill, then I got an 18 steward and thought that was the limit. But now I got a daughter, who has 19 stewardsip! Is that the maximum?
Add to that that I myself have 15 stewardship now (34 for the two of us) and that made some events that I never thought existed available for me - like, an event that gives a massive boost to your reputation (from slightly tarnished to honorable) or instant discoveries!

 

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There is no absolute maximum in stats. Or if there is, it's based how many numbers the game understands there, likely something with at least six numbers.

Through gameplay in normal scenarios, passing 20 is very rare.

 

[Owen]

There is one uncommon way that stats can be hiked hugely.

The education events have a MTTH, like any other event, and thus two events can fire simultaneously for the same character. One of the courtiers of my dynasty with good but not great stats managed to become a Grey Eminence and Midas Touched on the same day, giving a new stewardship value of, IIRC, 18. It felt like cheating to make him my steward, so I used his intrigue value of 15. Since I had bred a steward of 16 with normal stats already, this was less of a problem.

 

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Once I though that 16 was the absolute maximum for a skill, then I got an 18 steward and thought that was the limit. But now I got a daughter, who has 19 stewardsip! Is that the maximum?
Add to that that I myself have 15 stewardship now (34 for the two of us) and that made some events that I never thought existed available for me - like, an event that gives a massive boost to your reputation (from slightly tarnished to honorable) or instant discoveries!

The limit (if there is one) must be pretty high, since Rodrigo de Vivar (El Cid) starts off with 17 martial.

 

[Lucius Sulla]

The limit (if there is one) must be pretty high, since Rodrigo de Vivar (El Cid) starts off with 17 martial.

That is 10 natural + 1 for Brave trait + 6 for best (4th) martial education.

If he would turn wise, he would actually go to 18.

I used to believe 10 natural was the maximum, but I have since tested there is no limit for natural born stats. Certainly 10 is the maximum in natural born stats in scenario descriptions.

 

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I have seen natural 11s, at least rounded ones.

And to prove that there is little limit technically:

 

[GrimPagan]

Heh...

When that guy takes a leak, he could probably take someones head of at the same time!

 

[Armfeldt]

Most frustrating is, when I had a ruler with natural stewardship 11, he got kids with mostly 0 stewardship...

 

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Most frustrating is, when I had a ruler with natural stewardship 11, he got kids with mostly 0 stewardship...

my 19 stewardship daughther is married to a 16 stewardship courtier and all of their children are 9+ stewardship... Eugenics doesn't work that well in this game. I was sort of hoping to create a race of gods

 

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High ratings

There's not any ceiling to how high stats can go, AFAIK. Over time, the tendency will be for them to go higher and higher, if you have have a home province with the maximum number of improvements. Of course it helps to have a good court, and marry women with good stats too (see the eduation FAQ if you don't understand how much effect each of these will have).

My starting character, the Komnenus scion, had a 17 Stewardship, and he had a daughter who grew up to be a Midas Touched 19. 2-3 generations later, my ruler has 28 Martial (knowledged tactician, too, so it could be higher), 10 Diplomacy, 9 Intrigue and 12 Stewardship. This is with the benefit of a Byzantium that is almost maxed out for education enhancing improvements, and consistently good courts, wives, etc. The likely heir is a few years old and has a 26 for martial (no education has been selected yet), and all the daughters are 17+ for martial.

The toughest thing is tracking down good breeding stock from other courts...

 

[tombom]

If you go over about 2000+ stewardship, you end up getting provinces making negative money and always being at 0 gold, yet you can build as many buildings as you want, although you get bankruptcy events...

 

[sanmartin]

And, if you have a high enough Stewardship, yor armies become insanely huge, in fact, in my case (admitted, I cheated heavily that game )there were 10000 man armies in provinces that couldn't event supprt 3000 men.

 

[daedalus]

I had a courtier with martial 15 with the army education thread. He then got the blessed two fold event, Brilliant Stategist and Knowledged Tactician, the game crashed before I could see the resulting stat . When I reloaded he got the though soldier trait

But efficient eugenics can create a court of superhumans. 100 years into the game my court is filled with 15+ stats courtiers. It has got the the point where I refuse to marry anyone with less than three 10+ stats.

Ironically, my king is the well below the average.

 

[Elmokki]

Some time ago I had to prove that 10 isn't the maximum natural stat by showing my Duke of Pomerania game

 

[Owen]

I had a courtier with martial 15 with the army education thread. He then got the blessed two fold event, Brilliant Stategist and Knowledged Tactician, the game crashed before I could see the resulting stat . When I reloaded he got the though soldier trait

But efficient eugenics can create a court of superhumans. 100 years into the game my court is filled with 15+ stats courtiers. It has got the the point where I refuse to marry anyone with less than three 10+ stats.

Ironically, my king is the well below the average.

Go elective.

 

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Go elective.

Just be careful with that - it works best if all your dukes are family members. The game doesn't seem to check archbishops, so you could set up most of your vassals as bishoprics and just have a small group of dukes and counts, and try to make them all family members.

Salic Consanguinity is a bit more predictable that way... you can steer the inheritances, but it stays in the family.

 

[Owen]

Just be careful with that - it works best if all your dukes are family members. The game doesn't seem to check archbishops, so you could set up most of your vassals as bishoprics and just have a small group of dukes and counts, and try to make them all family members.

Salic Consanguinity is a bit more predictable that way... you can steer the inheritances, but it stays in the family.

That is true. However, as long as you have bred for health as well as stats, the loyalty bonus from being in the line of succession means you should have time to remove titles from anyone who isn't in your dynasty or who would make a bad king before your king dies. The only real danger I see is if you try to inherit a nearby semisalic kingdom using your elective heir, because if he inherits the other Kingdom first, he isn't your elective heir any more and you've lost his wealthy dukedom.

 

[Jmjjmj]

So long as you get some early strategic marriages from other courts, you can easily breed superhumans by 1150. It's great to have a queen with a natural 14 in stewardship .

What about health and fertility? My king is 10-10 and his kids run the gamut from 8-11 to 9-9 to 9-10 to 10-10 to 11-9. Ok a very small, but elite, gamut....

 

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how are you people doing this? I have so far failed to do any breeding. Any hints besides marrying the best possible candidate? I never marry anyone with a stewardship below 10, but that still doesn't prevent me from heirs with 3 in stewardship.

P.S. I am playing on the very hard. Could this be it?

 

[Jmjjmj]

how are you people doing this? I have so far failed to do any breeding. Any hints besides marrying the best possible candidate? I never marry anyone with a stewardship below 10, but that still doesn't prevent me from heirs with 3 in stewardship.

P.S. I am playing on the very hard. Could this be it?

Are you looking at the post-education stats or the raw stats? A girl with a 10 in stewardship could have anywhere from a 2 (I am guessing; not sure how many traits increase stewardship) to a 10 (does generous reduce stewardship, in which case 11) in innate stewardship, depending on her education and any traits she may have.