185k population, 100k jobs available, no R demand

[rosellem]

Had a city that was growing nicely, then around 160k I stopped seeing any residential demand, and almost no industry, just endless commercial demand. Creeped up to 185k, and now all growth has stopped. I have over 100,000 available jobs, 3% unemployment, but nobody wants to move in. Maybe its traffic, but it seems manageable, and all deliveries seem to get made.

some screenshots here:
http://imgur.com/a/pvOn6

 

[novapaddy]

I had similar. I looked at my imports and exports. I could see I was importing lots of ORE. I also saw that I could build a specialised Ore industrial area. I built the area. Industry started to build there, my imports of ore dropped, my exports rose, I needed more workers so my residential demand increased and things went back to normal again.

 

[JerkyJerry]

You have more deaths than births
What is your city health?
Your traffic is fine. It could use some work but that should not be causing the issue
Look at your services. What % is your fire, police & education?
Do you have enough parks?

 

[raresteak]

Forget the two posts above.

People need to know this: CO used the wrong words.

"Jobs available" really means "Number of jobs". This counts both unfilled (available) and filled (unavailable) jobs.

Your actual number of unfilled (available) jobs is 100 954 - 95 067 = 5 887.

This is CO's mistake. I only realised this when I studied how and which of the numbers changed as I separately added residents and jobs to the city. I hope CO changes it to "Number of jobs", or even better, "Jobs", "Available Jobs" and "Filled Jobs" to make it unmistakable.

 

[novapaddy]

Well I told him one way to solve his problem. All you have told him is how many jobs he has available. His problem still remains.

Perhaps he should forget about YOUR post!

 

[raresteak]

Are you both butthurt?

He thinks he has over 100 000 jobs available (open). I told him the words used in the info view aren't accurate and leads to this common misconception.

So what I did was inform him that instead of having the 100 000 open/vacant/available jobs he thinks his city has to provide, it really actually is only over 5000. Him realising that he's overestimated his number of open jobs by 20 times will be immeasurably more helpful for him than a bunch of arbitrary suggestions you guys summon out at random.

I have the correct information. You both do not. Get over it.

 

[JerkyJerry]

but nobody wants to move in

This is what I read as the issue raresteak
If it is 100k available jobs or 5k I'm not sure how it matters if no cims want to move in.
Maybe I was wrong as to what the issue is?

 

[raresteak]

His issue is that there is no R demand despite having 100k open jobs.

He says it clearly in the thread title and explained it in his post.

Would you like me to take a screenshot, circle the texts and upload the image to show you?

 

[JerkyJerry]

His issue is that there is no R demand despite having 100k open jobs.

But I thought you debunked that?
So are you now saying he has 100k open jobs?

 

[raresteak]

Oh, Jerry... I have a bad habit of overestimating people or giving them too much credit...

 

[JerkyJerry]

Oh, Jerry... I have a bad habit of overestimating people or giving them too much credit...

Hey, I was thinking the exact same thing!
Great minds really do think alike!

 

[rosellem]

okay, so maybe the number of jobs available isn't so ridiculous, but I still have sections of abandoned industry from not enough workers, so I still have a problem.

Deaths and births both go up and down, but are basically even. I've got plenty of all city services.

 

[RyanX]

I sometimes find that despite the RCI indicator, I am able to build industry and residential. Did you actually zone residential and failed to fill it up or are you simply relying on what the RCI indicators tell you?

 

[JerkyJerry]

okay, so maybe the number of jobs available isn't so ridiculous, but I still have sections of abandoned industry from not enough workers, so I still have a problem.

Deaths and births both go up and down, but are basically even. I've got plenty of all city services.

I don't recall my death totals being close to my birth totals not to mention being higher. That to me seems very odd. Unless you are experiencing a 'death wave' I would think this could be the reason why no other cims want to move in and fill those thousands upon thousands of jobs.

 

[rosellem]

@RyanX Yeah, I have R and I zoned. The I will build slowly, but without workers gets abandoned. From 160k to 185K the R would fill slowly, at this point it has stopped entirely.

@JerkyJerry The death total bothers me. My death rate rose pretty consistently until it basically equaled the birth rate, then leveled off. But I have plenty of hospitals and no pollution in my residential areas or water supply.

 

[JerkyJerry]

Maybe just one of those death waves I've been reading so much about?
Maybe just giving it some time will get things back on track for you? I hope so. It seems very frustrating
Good luck!

 

[novapaddy]

Jeez, dare I mention: Have you tried my suggestion of building specific industry, I mean forestry in a forestry rich area, ore in an ore rich area. Have you checked your imports/exports and can you see what you are possibly importing lots of which, if you built that industry, you might find that you need more workers, and more residents... ?

 

[rosellem]

I have zoned specific industry, but regardless zoning something that would cause me to need more workers is not the problem. I need workers now. I have industry abandonment left and right because of a shortage of workers. And yes part of that is because of education levels, maybe that's the problem.

 

[Lord Canterbury]

...but I still have sections of abandoned industry from not enough workers, so I still have a problem..

Abandoned industry is most often due to high worker education. If your cims are well educated they will flock to the office jobs (requiring high education), rather than the factory jobs (requiring low education), and your factories will be left empty.

 

[Matt8D]

If you substantially increase the land value in your industrial zones and pet the buildings upgrade, they will attract higher education workers. Also, offices.

You have to make sure all education levels have a good number of jobs open.