Re: Re: Re: Re: 1838 Patriots (Québec and Ontario)
I didn't say the Brits were bad conquerers. We retained the rights of religion, of a french educational system.
The Brits wanted to assimilate us when they got New France in 1760. But they tolerated catholicism and to insure we didn't rebel, they left the french society as it was with France but with a british political head, british civil and criminal laws and only british merchants could make money in the newly acquired New France.
When the americans seceded, the English parlement gave us back the french civil laws, the Great Lakes region (wich was a Indian reserved since the conquest) and stoped campaigning (for a few years) for our assimilation.
With the americans finally being recognized as a new country and immigrants arriving in nowaday's Ontario, the british divided what was called Canada into High and Lower Canada, two distinct colonies. the Lower Canada was french and the Higher was populated with new immigrants from the UK and the fleeing Loyalists.
After the Lower (and Higher) Canada rebellions failed, Lord Druham was sent to make some report on the situation in these 2 colonies. They fused the two colonies and gave the political power to the people of Higher Canada-Ontarians (even though they were far outnumbered by Lower Canada-Québécois).
The British and then the Canadians tried and tried hard to assimilate Québec but couldn't succeed because after the 1760, Québec turned itself into a conservative, ultra-catholic and Québec-centric society. From a mere 60 k New France in 1760, we got to 7 000 000 even with a negative immigration. Families, until the 1960's were rarely smaller than 6 to 10 kids, even saw families with more than 20 kids.
Historically, that was named ''La revanche du landau''. Nowadays, people mistake the Independance movement in Québec as a rejection of Canada, a statement that we are greater than any english speaking people out there. It's not. It's an assment at our nation. There is no better ruler of a nation than itself - and this is what we are searching. Full responsability, full authority and full consequences. Being finally considered as a country, not as a province of another nation.
Originally posted by Faeelin
There are nations who would go to war to be conquered by such an empire.
I didn't say the Brits were bad conquerers. We retained the rights of religion, of a french educational system.
The Brits wanted to assimilate us when they got New France in 1760. But they tolerated catholicism and to insure we didn't rebel, they left the french society as it was with France but with a british political head, british civil and criminal laws and only british merchants could make money in the newly acquired New France.
When the americans seceded, the English parlement gave us back the french civil laws, the Great Lakes region (wich was a Indian reserved since the conquest) and stoped campaigning (for a few years) for our assimilation.
With the americans finally being recognized as a new country and immigrants arriving in nowaday's Ontario, the british divided what was called Canada into High and Lower Canada, two distinct colonies. the Lower Canada was french and the Higher was populated with new immigrants from the UK and the fleeing Loyalists.
After the Lower (and Higher) Canada rebellions failed, Lord Druham was sent to make some report on the situation in these 2 colonies. They fused the two colonies and gave the political power to the people of Higher Canada-Ontarians (even though they were far outnumbered by Lower Canada-Québécois).
The British and then the Canadians tried and tried hard to assimilate Québec but couldn't succeed because after the 1760, Québec turned itself into a conservative, ultra-catholic and Québec-centric society. From a mere 60 k New France in 1760, we got to 7 000 000 even with a negative immigration. Families, until the 1960's were rarely smaller than 6 to 10 kids, even saw families with more than 20 kids.
Historically, that was named ''La revanche du landau''. Nowadays, people mistake the Independance movement in Québec as a rejection of Canada, a statement that we are greater than any english speaking people out there. It's not. It's an assment at our nation. There is no better ruler of a nation than itself - and this is what we are searching. Full responsability, full authority and full consequences. Being finally considered as a country, not as a province of another nation.
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