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If the problem is the age of reformation starting too early, then make it start once there are 3 centers.

It would simbolize how serious the reformation is being.
 
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If the problem is the age of reformation starting too early, then make it start once there are 3 centers.

It would simbolize how serious the reformation is being.
I mean no offense but... do you play this game? Once the Centers are eligible to spawn they're usually snapped up by an AI in a year if the player doesn't try to get one. This would do nothing.
 
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Considering the Hussites appeared decades before game start, and the religion functions as a reformation (as in reform of the current state of Christianity), it is not that implausible that another reformation could come earlier than it did in history, nor does it change much mechanically what year it does spawn in game.
 
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I mean no offense but... do you play this game? Once the Centers are eligible to spawn they're usually snapped up by an AI in a year if the player doesn't try to get one. This would do nothing.

If the player is not Austria this IS so false it's laughable.
 
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To be honest, I also tried to nerf reformation by my own hands: started to play as Norway in order to colonise Canada and move there, didn’t overthrow the Danish PU. So, the second centre of reformation was shut down by Denmark, and I broke the third one by being a Colonial nation.

Guess what - Germany is all blue and the Protestants won.

It’s a shame I don’t have this save.
 
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Nothing unusual about reformation starting date in my recent game, it happened in 1512.

Now 3 reformed and 2 protestant centers are a bit unusual for me, but hey, it works.
 
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A player Austria doesn't change the AI's chance of changing religion.

That was not my point. Like... AT ALL. Do you read my posts at all or you just rush to dislike?

If the the Age of Reformation starts too early move it to when 3 centers exist. 3 too much? 2 centers. Include Reformed ones if you want. I do think they should be included.

If not Austria as player that usually happens and is not THAT easy to destroy.

The reason why reform desire rises so fast was ALREADY dissected and it it related to the massive number of catholic tags and thus, events that raise reform desire. Do you want to decrease HRE number of countries? Less irish minors? Less catholic events? Choose what you want.
 
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I wonder how much of an impact the new Pope's new ability of reducing reform now for more reform gain is. Does the AI still use this?
 

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I mean no offense but... do you play this game? Once the Centers are eligible to spawn they're usually snapped up by an AI in a year if the player doesn't try to get one. This would do nothing.
If it's 10 years after the first centre vs 10 years after the third centre, or perhaps when 'protestanism entrenched' gives the food decrease to fish, then you could save a few more years. In my games it's normally 3 to 5 years for the third one to pop up
 
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Only papal states Pope can use it now, so feel AI can probably still do it

Oh only the Pope Pope and not just any Pope? Sad.

But yeah, it may be worth observing the AI to see if the Pope is either using it too much or too little as it may constitute part of the reason why the Reformation can spawn quite early.