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I'm playing a game, and go to war with Portugal and spain. I gain control of almost all of Portugal's colonies and trading posts, and 2 years later, they're annexed by Spain.

Then all the shields for the ToT dissapeared. Anyone have a clue why?
 

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Originally posted by BiB
Spain's were gone too?

No. That's why they were annexed By Spain.
 

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When Portugal is annexed, their ToT shields disappear. But if Portugal regains its independence, the shields reappear (unless the EoT has come, natch...)

The same happens to Spain I imagine, although I have never seen it. But Portugal seems to get annexed (at least for a while) in about 50% of the GCs I play.
 

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In My current game Portugal has been eliminated and thier shields vanished with them. Spain still has all thier ToT shileds.
 

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Originally posted by BiB


That's what should happen.
It would seem that Portugal not existing would prevent Portugal from enforcing the Line of Demarcation, wouldn't it?:D
 

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When I said all the shields dissapeared, I meant Spain's AND Portugal's. Not one, both.
 

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Originally posted by BiB
That's weird :D

Yes very weird indeed..hmm.....well anyways, maybe the Pope was Portuguesse and then stripped Spain of its CB colonial sheilds with it!:D
 

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Originally posted by Faeelin
When I said all the shields dissapeared, I meant Spain's AND Portugal's. Not one, both.

I understood you, which is why I provided my counter example. Ie. Spain still has their shields while Portugal has none. So your game has a bug. Maybe it makes a difference how you eliminate Portugal, Diplo or Mil. Mine was Mil.
 

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Originally posted by flak 88
One time as Portugal, I diplo-annexed Castille and Spain never formed. When ToT rolled around I didn't get any shields. I just assumed both countries need to exist.

Yes to the best of my knowledge they both need ot exist...
 
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Yes to the best of my knowledge they both need ot exist...

...and be Catholic, although I've yet to see a game where ToT hasn't occurred before the Reformation. Used to happen oftentimes in EU1.


Faelin - you're sure its not some obvious thing like, Spain isn't Spain yet but actually Castile? Spain's ToT shields should not disappear just because Portugal got eaten.