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Hive said:
Nah. OE ain't that strong early on in GC. Well, of course a powermonger like HG, who's wet dream is to annex all other players in this game, would do his best to do it... but normal players would rather concentrate on the AI minors I think. :p
aye.. but in 1500 the Timurids are STILL in rebelion... so thats a pretty long time to survive without interference...
but, I'm willing to give it a try :)
(unless some other nation opens up in which I may be interested :D )
 

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ForzaA said:
aye.. but in 1500 the Timurids are STILL in rebelion... so thats a pretty long time to survive without interference...
but, I'm willing to give it a try :)
(unless some other nation opens up in which I may be interested :D )

Well I might shuffle a bit around, so that's why I'm asking you to list all nations of interest - regardless whether others are assigned to them... ;)
 

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Hive said:
Well I might shuffle a bit around, so that's why I'm asking you to list all nations of interest - regardless whether others are assigned to them... ;)
oh and I wish to withdraw my choice of the Timurids, all went well untill 1480 or so.. then I got a few random revolts, and some random revolt risk.. and all imploded :(
I'll see if I can do a new list then, eh :)

Venice, Aragon, Denmark, Sweden, England.
 

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ForzaA said:
oh and I wish to withdraw my choice of the Timurids, all went well untill 1480 or so.. then I got a few random revolts, and some random revolt risk.. and all imploded :(
I'll see if I can do a new list then, eh :)

Venice, Aragon, Denmark, Sweden, England.

Well I'll see if I can shove Tonio somewhere else, so you can have Aragon... :D
 

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we can call it "Hive`s domino game" :p
 

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Well I'll see if I can shove Tonio somewhere else, so you can have Aragon... :D

And I can have denmark! :D

Man I never thought I would beg to play denmark :rofl:
 

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Hive,

So I'm still fucked, huh?

I don't see why Anton can't have Lithuania as the Eastern power, with me in HRE Bohemia or Hungary-to-Austria. That'd make for some balance. And as I said, I'll do the research on Austria's HRE leaders myself.
 

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Hive,

Or we could randomize leaders/monarchs...

In which case, these would be the majors:

1. Norway
2. Lithuania
3. Hungary
4. Burgundy
5. Golden Horde
6. Mamluks
7. Bohemia
8. Scotland
9. Denmark
10. Castille
11. Two Sicilies (give it Sicily)
12. Venice
13. Genoa (give it Sardinia and Piemonte)
14. Morocco
15. The Ottoman Empire or one of those Sheep countries
 

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Hive,

Alternatively, actually, give the GH and Lithuania Russian and they can duke it out in the east... Good place for Anton and I, and it'd keep us both busy.
 

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Hive,

Until I annex him, anyway...
 

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Hive,

So I'm still fucked, huh?

I don't see why Anton can't have Lithuania as the Eastern power, with me in HRE Bohemia or Hungary-to-Austria. That'd make for some balance. And as I said, I'll do the research on Austria's HRE leaders myself.

If I would still play Poland then, that would be me in a *rather* uncomfortable position. Having both a human Poland and Lithuania isn't a good idea I think.
I'm willing to play something else of course, if Hive can think of something.
 

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HolisticGod said:
All,

As requested, quoted objections to the merger rule:

HolisticGod (3:30 PM) :
Now, I do it very rarely because the wars I fight tend to be too big for that kind of organization and it's usually unnecessary. But it IS a viable tactic, a well-known tactic, a tactic that, A. can't really be monitored and B. contributes greatly to miniature set piece warfare-dealing with small fronts and equal forces.
HolisticGod (3:35 PM) :
Actually, I will say that there's a difference here.
HolisticGod (3:35 PM) :
If, on the one hand, you split off cavalry to advance an army more quickly than it can otherwise travel, I think that's a little over the top.
HolisticGod (3:36 PM) :
However, if you merge incoming armies with outgoing, or you split an army to trick your opponent into defending a province, or overcommitting to one, that's just tactics.
HolisticGod (3:38 PM) :
It may not be very realistic (though it does smack of Napoleon, who would often force march armies far more quickly than they could normally go straight into battles), but neither is the rest of the game.
HolisticGod (3:38 PM) :
As far as warfare is concerned.
HolisticGod (3:39 PM) :
If you prohibit this, it doesn't change the level of competition-as this can be done by everyone-but it does close off a whole range of tactical and strategic options that are the key to EU's rather limited war of manuever.
HolisticGod (3:42 PM) :
But how will anyone know when it's used?
HolisticGod (3:42 PM) :
The only way to be sure is if a player sees the flag from a marching army merge with a non-marching army, and if there's any lag at all he has no way of knowing whether they were momentarily halted or not. And if any accusations are made, most will deny them.
HolisticGod (3:44 PM) :
I for one won't do it if it's forbidden, but I don't know that everyone can say the same. And even if no one does it, accusations will be made in every single war.

I agree to all this, and my oppinion stands that it is a tactic, even if it also is an exploit.
 

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DarkTemplar said:
If I would still play Poland then, that would be me in a *rather* uncomfortable position. Having both a human Poland and Lithuania isn't a good idea I think.
I'm willing to play something else of course, if Hive can think of something.

I don't care how much the HoG complains, neither Lith nor Hungary or Bohemia will be played. :p

I need to get hold of Cambion as part of my current reshuffle scheme. Will get back to you all.
 

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World Conqueror said:
I agree to all this, and my oppinion stands that it is a tactic, even if it also is an exploit.

I disagree. But like I already told HG: if the majority is against this rule, I will remove it.
 

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I disagree. But like I already told HG: if the majority is against this rule, I will remove it.

What! It should be enough that im against it! :rofl:
 

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All,

I am the King of Hungary.

And my Crown shall come above all. :D
 

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HolisticGod said:
All,

I am the King of Hungary.

And my Crown shall come above all. :D

My condolences to the venetian and ottoman players :p (and we will have or not an austrian player?)