Does anyone know if this starts before or after the fall of Constantinople? Either one would be interesting, but I don't recall seeing anything either way about this.
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No 1204 scenario? 
I could have sworn that I had seen some post by Johan or Patric talking about this a while ago, but I can't seem to find it now. Using the (advanced) forum search with a keyword of "Constantinople" only brought up this thread, and using "Byzantine Empire" or "Byzantium" brought up nothing. I have a feeling this feature is not yet working as it should....
Anyway, I had thought it was to be in the game, but I can't find anything about that now. Oh well....
I could have sworn that I had seen some post by Johan or Patric talking about this a while ago, but I can't seem to find it now. Using the (advanced) forum search with a keyword of "Constantinople" only brought up this thread, and using "Byzantine Empire" or "Byzantium" brought up nothing. I have a feeling this feature is not yet working as it should....
Anyway, I had thought it was to be in the game, but I can't find anything about that now. Oh well....
Marcus Valerius said:No 1204 scenario?
I could have sworn that I had seen some post by Johan or Patric talking about this a while ago, but I can't seem to find it now. Using the (advanced) forum search with a keyword of "Constantinople" only brought up this thread, and using "Byzantine Empire" or "Byzantium" brought up nothing. I have a feeling this feature is not yet working as it should....
Anyway, I had thought it was to be in the game, but I can't find anything about that now. Oh well....
Idea seems to very exclusively nice, i mean Byzantine Reconquista - is what i bet most players would like to try their hand at, then i believe we know what needs modding in the first place if this scenario is not included in CK.
There is no indication that there will be a 1204 scenaro in the official release. The scenaros that have been mentioned are 1066, 1187 and 1337.Marcus Valerius said:No 1204 scenario?
I could have sworn that I had seen some post by Johan or Patric talking about this a while ago, but I can't seem to find it now. Using the (advanced) forum search with a keyword of "Constantinople" only brought up this thread, and using "Byzantine Empire" or "Byzantium" brought up nothing. I have a feeling this feature is not yet working as it should....
Anyway, I had thought it was to be in the game, but I can't find anything about that now. Oh well....
I would love to see a 1204 scenario myself though - set in the aftermath of the establishment of the Latin Empire.
Havard said:There is no indication that there will be a 1204 scenaro in the official release. The scenaros that have been mentioned are 1066, 1187 and 1337.
I would love to see a 1204 scenario myself though - set in the aftermath of the establishment of the Latin Empire.
Perhaps I was thinking of a discussion about possible scenarios before the official announcement....
Anyway, I agree, that would be a great scenario to play. I'd think it would be the first modded scenario anyway....
Well, it's unlikely that there would be a 1204 scenario after an 1187 one was annouced. They are only 17 years apart, after all...
Demetrios said:
Yeah, that makes sense. Like I said, I must have been thinking of the discussions among the posters here about what the scenarios could be, before they were announced. Sorry for the confusion....
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Hmmm, it would be nice of Paradox released a fourth scenario in a patch like for Victoria.
Constantinople didn't actually fall in 1204/5, it was just sacked by the knights of the 4th crusade. It wasn't taken by the Turks until 1453.
Constantinople fall to the Catholic Armies who installed a Catholic Empire thereIblis said:
Just came to think of something.. there must have been quite a "depression" of ortodox christianity after both 1204 and 1230.. not too fara apart. No wonder Lithuania "Reclaimer of Russia" chose catholisism
I mean, people around then must have thought ortodoxy forsaken by god
I mean, people around then must have thought ortodoxy forsaken by god
I'd say the main reason Lithuania (Mindaugas) chose Catholicism was to get away from those Catholic crusaders waging war on them...The camel said:Just came to think of something.. there must have been quite a "depression" of ortodox christianity after both 1204 and 1230.. not too fara apart. No wonder Lithuania "Reclaimer of Russia" chose catholisism
I mean, people around then must have thought ortodoxy forsaken by god
Iblis said:
It did fall to the crusaders, who set up their own Empire centered there, controlling parts of Thrace, Anatolia, and Macedonia for about 60 years (though the lands they controlled outside of Constantinople were slowly and steadily reconquered by the Byzantines almost from the beginning). Constantinople was then reconquered by a general in the command of Michael Palaeologus, though that was more by luck than anything else. When the Byzantines happened upon Constantinople there were practically no crusaders there defending it - most of them were out on a raid. So I guess you could say that Constantinople fell three times in its history.
Marcus Valerius said:It did fall to the crusaders, who set up their own Empire centered there, controlling parts of Thrace, Anatolia, and Macedonia for about 60 years (though the lands they controlled outside of Constantinople were slowly and steadily reconquered by the Byzantines almost from the beginning). Constantinople was then reconquered by a general in the command of Michael Palaeologus, though that was more by luck than anything else. When the Byzantines happened upon Constantinople there were practically no crusaders there defending it - most of them were out on a raid. So I guess you could say that Constantinople fell three times in its history.
Once to the Crusader (mostly french, weren't they?), once to the Byzanties themselves and once to the Turks.
Then what about Istanbul? Didn't the Russians get very close during one of those wars in the 19th century?anti_strunt said:Once to the Crusader (mostly french, weren't they?), once to the Byzanties themselves and once to the Turks.
They came in visual sight of it. Didn`t go on though. Didn`t want to get the British on their neck.
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