Solmyr said:
Ross and Moray are questionable IMHO. Aside from that, all in Scotland is peachy as far as I know. Dublin, as the only decent province in Ireland being norwegian is a bit odd, but it's not anyone's capital at start, so it isnt too bad.
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Ross and Moray are questionable IMHO. Aside from that, all in Scotland is peachy as far as I know. Dublin, as the only decent province in Ireland being norwegian is a bit odd, but it's not anyone's capital at start, so it isnt too bad.
Solmyr said:The problem here is that there are separate name lists for individual Scandinavian cultures, but not for the Norse one. So to unite them would mean making them all Danish, Swedish, or Norwegian, and that's bound to piss someone off.
Can't we just change the name-lists thought? They're just .txt files, right?
Arilou said:
Yes, but we haven't included the name lists in the bugfix so far, and I suspect many people use their own customized name lists anyway (I know I do).
Solmyr said:The problem here is that there are separate name lists for individual Scandinavian cultures, but not for the Norse one. So to unite them would mean making them all Danish, Swedish, or Norwegian, and that's bound to piss someone off.
Why not just unite all names? They did the same thing with "south slavic". They've just put Croatian, Serbian and Bulgarian names with some Romanian together and named it "south slavic"....
I personally wouldn't mind if all names were united - for me, it might seem a bit odd to get a king called "Cadfan" if I live in russia, but it doesn't really matter.
Krunoslav, please don't bring that argument here. And I'm not being horrible.
Krunoslav, please don't bring that argument here. And I'm not being horrible.
Krunoslav said:Why not just unite all names? They did the same thing with "south slavic". They've just put Croatian, Serbian and Bulgarian names with some Romanian together and named it "south slavic"....
Scandinavian names are pretty damn similar anyway (A few spelling differences but, at the time, even THESE weren't established yet) So it wouldn't matter.
paradox people, solve the name issue the way it worked in eu2 when the id tag had priority over culture in character naming
There is no sense in unifying swedes, norwegians and danes as scandinavians, because then kings of Sweden could have danish names, which would mean "no-chance-to-official-patch".
but if they do it my way, king of sweden has swedish name, king of denmark danish name, king of norway norwegian name and all three have scandinavian culture.
scandinavians of all countries, unite!
scandinavians of all countries, unite!
Well, in EU2 the random leaders file was completely separate from cultures, so culture had no effect on random leader choices.
It would mean that instead of culture -> name you would have tag -> name, which would eventually suck if you get ahistorical results like french count of Jerusalem naming his kids with arab names or arab sheik of Jerusalem naming his kids with french names.
It would mean that instead of culture -> name you would have tag -> name, which would eventually suck if you get ahistorical results like french count of Jerusalem naming his kids with arab names or arab sheik of Jerusalem naming his kids with french names.
Byakhiam said:
if there was no specific tag for a random name in the random leaders, then the game used the names on cultural basis
ie. there are no croatian names specified in eu2, so croatian troops get random slavonic generals, the same works for monarchs, since there is no monarchs.cro but after i edit it and add CRO;leader_name, they have croatian names.
yeah but have you tested that tag thingie you talk about. wrk on it a bit, so we all get the spoils of your slave labourBrownbeard said:
seriously the matter must be reserched adecuatly by someone to be seen if the idea works.
so brownbeard have you tried it? throw in some code or something!
How about uniting all cultures into Germanic, Latin, Slavic, Greek and Dark subcultures? This way, we can have plenty of free culture tags for micro cultures.
how about uniting everybody in people culture and just merge the name listTunch Khan said:How about uniting all cultures into Germanic, Latin, Slavic, Greek and Dark subcultures? This way, we can have plenty of free culture tags for micro cultures.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Tunch Khan said:How about uniting all cultures into Germanic, Latin, Slavic, Greek and Dark subcultures? This way, we can have plenty of free culture tags for micro cultures.
Yes! That way we woul have enough available tags for alien races that plan to invade Earth...
:rofl:
All I'm going to say on the matter is that unless there is a very urgent need to divide or merge cultures (except Southslavic, which I'm not going to touch anyway ), *and* it can be done without messing with the name lists (which the bugfix doesn't include), it's probably not worth bothering with, esp. since culture doesn't affect a whole lot.
It might change if folks clamor for me to include the names file in the bugfix, though I warn you that you'll be saddled with my version of it in that case, and will have to do any personal changes on your own.
Alternately we could include a "name list addendum" with only names for new cultures (norse, ugricbaltic), which would require mod users to manually add it to their names files. If people think this is a good idea then we can do it that way too. It's the option I personally like the most, if we start messing with name lists.
), *and* it can be done without messing with the name lists (which the bugfix doesn't include), it's probably not worth bothering with, esp. since culture doesn't affect a whole lot.It might change if folks clamor for me to include the names file in the bugfix, though I warn you that you'll be saddled with my version of it in that case, and will have to do any personal changes on your own.
Alternately we could include a "name list addendum" with only names for new cultures (norse, ugricbaltic), which would require mod users to manually add it to their names files. If people think this is a good idea then we can do it that way too. It's the option I personally like the most, if we start messing with name lists.
Including a "name list addendum" sounds good. It would also help with other mods that would want to use it.
Well, remember I'm on hand if you decide a 'Norse' culture for the Isles is desirable.
Swedish names? In 1066? Pluh-eeze. There were no swedish names at the time... or a swedish language btw.Byakhiam said:There is no sense in unifying swedes, norwegians and danes as scandinavians, because then kings of Sweden could have danish names, which would mean "no-chance-to-official-patch".
Since peopel at the time seems to hav emade up their spelling on the spot it really doesen't matter much?
Arilou said:
Remember though that although the game starts in 1066, the name list is used all the way to 1453.