1066 Byzantine Empire/Seljuqs

Solmyr · May 17, 2004

A few initial notes on the area of eastern Anatolia and Syria:

* Ani was conquered by Seljuqs in 1064. Tashir and Kars surrendered to them soon thereafter. In CK terms, that means the provinces Ani and Dwin should be Seljuq-controlled.

* In 1066, the Emirate of Amida/Diyarbakir was still around, and controlling places like Amida and Edessa. In CK terms, there should be an Emirate of Amida controlling Amida, Bira, Al Jazira, Nisibin, Edessa, Tel Bashir, Asas, and Aintab. It is ruled by Nasr of the Arab Marwanid dynasty

* The Emirate of Mosul should still exist in 1066. It should control Mosul, Kurdistan, Sinjar, Tadmor, and Al Bichri. It is ruled by Sharaf ud-Dawlah Muslim of the Uqailid dynasty.

* Palmyra/Aleppo should be an emirate under the Fatimids. It is ruled by Rashid ud-Dawlah Mahmud of the Mirdasid dynasty.

That's all for now. Coming soon, some notes on the Byzantine families which need some fixing in the scenario. I'm using Warren Treadgold's A History of Byzantine State and Society as my Byzantine source, in case anyone wants to know.

C.N. · May 17, 2004

Unresolved:
- Add a posible count of Bari (the name Stephanos Pateranos came up during discussion)
- Should Strymon & Ochrid be moved to the Kingdom of Bulgaria?

Solmyr · May 18, 2004

- I haven't been able to find much detail on Byzantine Bari. Could you point me to the post where Stephanos Pateranos was mentioned?

- Shouldn't, IMO. Bulgaria held those places (pre-1014 and occasionally post-1185), but they were not really "core" Bulgarian areas.

- Naples: should be ruled by Sergius, instead of whoever is ruler now (see here).

- Benevento: should be ruled by Landulf as a Duke, and be a vassal of the Pope (see same link as above).

- Messina: should be ruled by Roger, brother of Robert Guiscard, as a count.

- Syracuse: should be Byzantine-controlled (it was recaptured in 1038, see here). Maybe have the same count rule Bari and Syracuse.

C.N. · May 18, 2004

Solmyr said:
- I haven't been able to find much detail on Byzantine Bari. Could you point me to the post where Stephanos Pateranos was mentioned?

Havard mention the name and his title catapan, in a post on the first page on the 1066 Bugfix thread.

Solmyr · May 18, 2004

C.N. said:
Havard mention the name and his title catapan, in a post on the first page on the 1066 Bugfix thread.

Ah, I see it. Catapan was the highest Byzantine governor in S. Italy, so he is a good choice. We should make him rule both Bari and Syracuse then. I'll do some stats for him later.

Solmyr · May 18, 2004

Preliminary Byzantine families post (ids and stat modification suggestions added).

Ducas
(dynasty id=633, there is also dynasty 630 "Dukaena" which should be changed to 633 to make the women available for marriage)

Andronikos (id=1744, born 980, died 1029)
- Konstantinos X (id=1732, born 1006, 3/4/5/4, health 1), Emperor of Byzantium; married to Eudocia Macrembolitissa (id=1733, born 1030, change dynasty to 101110 "Makrembolites", 4/6/4/8)
-- Michael (id=1736, born 1050, 2/4/5/3, amateurish pettifogger, lazy); remove his marriage to Maria of Bulgaria which is incorrect
-- Andronikos (id=500300, born 1057)
-- Konstantinos (id=500301, born 1060)
-- Anna (id=500302, born 1057)
-- Theodora (id=500303, born 1059)
-- Zoe (id=9809, born 1062), she is incorrectly listed as daughter of Ioannes and Pulcheria
- Ioannes (id=1746, born 1005); married to Pulcheria Sklerena (id=1783); should instead be Irene Pegonitissa (dynasty id 101451 "Pegonites")
-- Andronikos (id=1748, born 1036, Prince of Dorostotum in game); should be married to Maria of Bulgaria (id=727, born 1033, change religion to Orthodox)
--- Michael (id=1782, born 1061)
--- Ioannes (id=500304, born 1064)
--- Irene (id=1743, born 1066; remove traits since she is 1 year old)
-- Konstantinos (id=500305, born ca. 1040?); add generic wife Zoe (id=500307)
--- Ioannes (id=500306, born ca. 1060?)

To remove:
Anna (id=1749), d. of Andronikos, was only born in 1068
Irene (id=9805), d. of Ioannes and Pulcheria, cannot find her in any genealogies; she is however married to Gregorios Kamateros so might as well leave her in

Comnenus
(several dynasty ids, 171 & 190 for "Komnenos", 191 for "Komnene", 246 for "Komnena", 634 for "Komnenus"; 1066 scenario uses only 634)

Manuel Eroticus (id=1750, correct name, born 955, died 1025)
- Nikephoros (died 1026) - not gonna bother since he is dead
- Isaakios I (id=1730, correct name, born 1000, died 1060, former Emperor); married to Ekaterina of Bulgaria (id=729, born 1015)
-- Manuel (id=1754, correct name, add mother)
-- Maria (status unknown, not gonna bother with her for now)
- Ioannes (id=1752, born 1015, should not be dead yet, historically died in 1067); married to Anna Dalassena (id=500317, born 1020, dynasty id=101085 "Dalassenos")
-- Manuel (id=1756, born 1036, correct name)
-- Isaakios (id=1758, born 1047)
-- Alexios (id=1742, born 1048, 6/7/5/8, charismatic negotiator, energetic)
-- Adrianos (id=1760, born 1058/1059?)
-- Nikephoros (id=1762, born 1060)
-- Maria (id=500308, born 1045); married to Michael Taronites (id=500309, dynasty id=101510)
-- Eudokia (id=500310, born 1050); married to Nikephoros Melissenos (see below)
-- Theodora (id=500311, born 1053)

NOTE: Nikephoros Palaeologus (id=1764) is set to be son of Ioannes Komnenus; this should be removed

Other Byzantines
- Ioannes Xiphilinos (id=500312, born ca. 1000?, patriarch in 1066, scholarly theologian, dynasty id=101540)
- Michael Psellus (id=500313, born 1018, 4/8/8/6, scholarly theologian, deceitful, dynasty id=101131)
- Romanos Diogenes (id=1734, born 1032, 7/5/2/5, knowledged tactician, trusting, valorous)
- Nikephoros Botaniates (id=1740, born 1001, 7/4/5/3, knowledged tactician, indulgent, lustful); he was the strategos of Anatolikon, which roughly corresponds to CK principality of Kappadokia, make him ruler there?
- Nikephoros Basilacius (id=500319, adding new dynasty for him)
- Nikephoros Melissenos (id=500314, dynasty id=101399); married to Eudokia Comnena (see above)
- Nikephoros Bryennios (id=20502, born 1039, note also his son, also Nikephoros, born 1062, id=500318), in CK he is ruler of Corfu which is fine
- Nestor, duke of Paradunavum in 1076 (closest CK principality is Varna) (rename character 20477 to Nestor)
- Philaretos Brachamios, held Cilicia and Mesopotamia in 1078 (rename character 20554 to Philaretos, change dynasty to 101224, change culture to Greek; do the last two also to character 4554).
- Perenos, Prince of Dyrrachion in 1066 (rename character 20499 to Perenos)
- Byzantios, count of Bari in 1066 (id=500315); add a generic wife Theodora (id=500316)

Another note: all members of the dynasty 702 ("of Bulgaria") are listed as Moslem, should be Orthodox (character ids: 712, 714, 716, 718, 720, 722, 724, 725, 726, 727, 728, 729, 730, 732)

Solmyr · May 18, 2004

New info from The Normans in Sicily by John Julius Norwich:

- The Greek leader of Bari was named Byzantios. Stephanos Pateranos was the Catapan who arrived from Constantinople to help the defense. So, Bari should be ruled by Byzantios, and Stephanos should be a courtier in Byzantium (with military education). Stats to follow.
- Bari should have a small castle, it took Guiscard almost 3 years to besiege it.
- Disregard my earlier comment on Syracuse, it appears it indeed was Saracen again in 1066.
- Perenos, Duke of Durazzo (Dyrrachion) is mentioned throughout the period. To make it easy, simply rename Ioannes (the Prince of Dyrrachion in CK) to Perenos.
- In 1066, Robert Guiscard was fighting a rebellion of his nephews Geoffroy, Robert, and Abelard (son of Humphrey). CK has Abelard ruling Taranto, so perhaps Taranto should not be a vassal of Apulia but at war (if possible). Don't forget to give Guiscard a claim on Taranto to let him reconquer it.

unmerged(14477) · May 19, 2004

Since the game uses genuine Greek titles and names, the Catapan should be really "Katepano" or "Catepano" (with "K" it's more correct, with "C" it looks better).

I can help with the Byzantine/Seljuk portion of the bugfix, by finding relevant data.

Great work guys, trying to make a fantastic game even better.

Demetrios · May 19, 2004

Re: Armenia and Syracuse - your information is correct, but misses what happened immediately afterwards. Syracuse was indeed captured by the Byzantines in 1035, but it was lost immediately afterwards. Armenia was indeed captured by the Seljuks in 1064, but that was only a raid and the Byzantines regained those areas as soon as the Seljuks were gone. It was only after Manzikert that Armenia was lost to the Byzantines permanently.

By 1066, Romanos Diogenes had been stripped of his titles and was living in semi-exile on his estates in Anatolia.

Solmyr · May 19, 2004

Thanks for the info.

Do you think the Byzantine eastern border in CK is correct then?

Hopefully the Seljuq AI will be improved in 1.03. It might also be warranted to start Seljuqs and Byzantium (and Apulia & Byzantium) at war in the 1066 scenario.

Solmyr · May 20, 2004

Ducas family revisions

MODIFIED characters:

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1744 }
	name = "Andronikos"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1776 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 980 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1029 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "36553656598032"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 6
		health = 5
		fertility = 7
	}
	traits = {
		suspicious = yes
		flamboyant_schemer = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1732 }
	name = "Konstantinos X"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1744 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	score = { gold = 200 prestige = 200 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1006 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1067 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "25369416346029"
	attributes = {
		martial = 3
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 4
		health = 1
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		arbitrary = yes
		indulgent = yes
		clubfooted = yes
		hole_in_the_pocket = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1733 }
	name = "Eudocia"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101110 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1030 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1080 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "15087517923009"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 8
		health = 7
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		merciful = yes
		scholarly_theologian = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1736 }
	name = "Michael"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1732 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1733 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1050 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1090 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "09250178618459"
	attributes = {
		martial = 2
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 3
		health = 3
		fertility = 3
	}
	traits = {
		stutter = yes
		proven_dealbreaker = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 9809 }
	name = "Zoe"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =630 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1732 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1733 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1062 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1137 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "79447957127521"
	attributes = {
		martial = 7
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 6
		health = 7
		fertility = 8
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1746 }
	name = "Ioannes"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1744 }
	country = DORO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1005 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1088 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "23192276421768"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 8
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		flamboyant_schemer = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1783 }
	name = "Irene"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101451 }
	country = DORO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1020 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1062 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "49259545687761"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 6
		health = 8
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		trusting = yes
		martial_cleric = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1748 }
	name = "Andronikos"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1746 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1783 }
	country = DORO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1036 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1077 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "98406074928581"
	attributes = {
		martial = 8
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 4
		health = 7
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		sceptical = yes
		knowledged_tactician = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1782 }
	name = "Michael"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1748 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 727 }
	country = DORO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1061 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1118 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "41542808035224"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 6
		health = 5
		fertility = 8
	}
	traits = {
		inbred = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1743 }
	name = "Irene"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =630 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1748 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 727 }
	country = DORO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1066 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1136 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "61905788595637"
	attributes = {
		martial = 7
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 8
		stewardship = 4
		health = 6
		fertility = 7
	}
}

NEW characters:

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500300 }
	name = "Andronikos"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1732 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1733 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1057 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "25087517926030"
	attributes = {
		martial = 2
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 3
		health = 3
		fertility = 3
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500301 }
	name = "Konstantinos"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1732 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1733 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1060 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "25040207000230"
	attributes = {
		martial = 3
		diplomacy = 3
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 2
		health = 2
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500302 }
	name = "Anna"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1732 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1733 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1057 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "14097418913110"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 3
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500303 }
	name = "Theodora"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1732 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1733 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1059 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "25369418906029"
	attributes = {
		martial = 3
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 4
		health = 3
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500304 }
	name = "Ioannes"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1748 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 727 }
	country = DORO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1064 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "40552709025323"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 4
		health = 5
		fertility = 6
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500305 }
	name = "Konstantinos"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1746 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 1783 }
	country = DORO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1040 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "99396173938480"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 5
		health = 6
		fertility = 3
	}
	traits = {
		tough_soldier = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500306 }
	name = "Ioannes"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 500305 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500307 }
	country = DORO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1060 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "02376072908782"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 6
		health = 5
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500307 }
	name = "Zoe"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =633 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1040 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "11402455074444"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 4
		health = 5
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		flamboyant_schemer = yes
	}
}

REMOVE character 1749 (or set birthdate to 1068).

CHANGE in 1066_scenario_relations (currently primary character is 1736):

Code:

	marrige = {
		primary = { type = 10 id = 1748 }
		secondary = { type = 10 id = 727 }
		startdate = { year = 1059 month = january day = 1 }
		enddate = { year = 1078 month = january day = 1 }
	}

ADD in 1066_scenario_relations to make Konstantinos and Zoe married:

Code:

	marrige = {
		primary = { type = 10 id = 500305 }
		secondary = { type = 10 id = 500307 }
		startdate = { year = 1039 month = january day = 1 }
	}

Solmyr · May 20, 2004

Komnenus family revisions
(includes Michael Taronites and Nikephoros Melissenus)

MODIFIED characters:

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1750 }
	name = "Manuel Eroticus"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 960 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1030 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "30553420839463"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 6
		health = 5
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		energetic = yes
		trusting = yes
		flamboyant_schemer = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1730 }
	name = "Isaakios I"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1750 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1000 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1060 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "13954171972919"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 8
		stewardship = 6
		health = 6
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		sceptical = yes
		coward = yes
		knowledged_tactician = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1754 }
	name = "Manuel"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1730 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 729 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1030 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1057 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "11402455074444"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 4
		health = 5
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		flamboyant_schemer = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	name = "Ioannes"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1750 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1006 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1067 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "29075596929297"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 7
		health = 6
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		zealous = yes
		intestinal_worm = yes
		martial_cleric = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1756 }
	name = "Manuel"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1036 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1106 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "78636464934899"
	attributes = {
		martial = 7
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 5
		health = 7
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		suspicious = yes
		scholarly_theologian = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1758 }
	name = "Isaakios"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1047 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1111 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "18454330284497"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 6
		health = 6
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		lazy = yes
		trusting = yes
		naive_wirepuller = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1742 }
	name = "Alexius"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1048 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1118 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "08315510007346"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 8
		health = 5
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		energetic = yes
		charismatic_negotiator = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1760 }
	name = "Adrianos"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1060 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1105 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "55145406499188"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 6
		health = 6
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		reckless = yes
		ecclesiastical_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1762 }
	name = "Nikephoros"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1060 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1100 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "28106660289139"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 7
		fertility = 7
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1764 }
	name = "Nicephorus "
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =628 }
	country = BUTR
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1020 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1081 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "80347397159730"
	attributes = {
		martial = 8
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 6
		health = 7
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		reckless = yes
		charismatic_negotiator = yes
	}
}

NEW characters:

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	name = "Anna"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101085 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1020 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "11305816017545"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 9
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 6
		health = 4
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		proven_dealbreaker = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500308 }
	name = "Maria"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1045 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "10325519047447"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 6
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		flamboyant_schemer = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500310 }
	name = "Eudokia"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1050 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "08290216037245"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 5
		health = 4
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		martial_cleric = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500311 }
	name = "Theodora"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =634 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1053 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "07300514067148"
	attributes = {
		martial = 3
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 6
		health = 5
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500309 }
	name = "Michael"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101510 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Armenian
	birthdate = { year = 1040 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "07300502150203"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 8
		health = 5
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		intricate_webweaver = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500314 }
	name = "Nikephoros"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101314 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = greek
	birthdate = { year = 1045 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "01010204020405"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 7
		health = 4
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		proven_accountant = yes
	}
}

ADD marriages (Ioannes & Anna Dalassena, Maria & Michael Taronites, Eudokia & Nikephoros Melissenus):

Code:

    marrige = {
        primary = { type = 10 id = 1752 }
        secondary = { type = 10 id = 500317 }
        startdate = { year = 1035 month = january day = 1 }
    } 
    marrige = {
        primary = { type = 10 id = 500309 }
        secondary = { type = 10 id = 500308 }
        startdate = { year = 1066 month = january day = 1 }
    } 
    marrige = {
        primary = { type = 10 id = 500314 }
        secondary = { type = 10 id = 500310 }
        startdate = { year = 1066 month = january day = 1 }
    }

Solmyr · May 20, 2004

Other Byzantine courtiers & rulers

REVISED characters:

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1734 }
	name = "Romanus"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =632 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1032 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1072 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "13366714224688"
	attributes = {
		martial = 7
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 2
		stewardship = 5
		health = 7
		fertility = 7
	}
	traits = {
		trusting = yes
		valorous = yes
		knowledged_tactician = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 1740 }
	name = "Nicephorus"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =631 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1001 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1081 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "76910752898717"
	attributes = {
		martial = 7
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 3
		health = 4
		fertility = 7
	}
	traits = {
		indulgent = yes
		lustful = yes
		knowledged_tactician = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 20477 }
	name = "Nestor"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101149 }
	country = VARN
	religion = orthodox
	culture = greek
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1039 month = january day = 0 }
	dna = "34660257233841"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 7
		health = 4
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		tough_soldier = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 20554 }
	name = "Philaretos"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101224 }
	country = ARMI
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1039 month = january day = 0 }
	dna = "87727243476152"
	attributes = {
		martial = 8
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 5
		health = 7
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		trusting = yes
		tough_soldier = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 4554 }
	name = "Triakontaphyllia"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101224 }
	country = ARMI
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1049 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "07353507660391"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes 
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 20499 }
	name = "Perenos"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101082 }
	country = DYRR
	religion = orthodox
	culture = greek
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1039 month = january day = 0 }
	dna = "46388789269090"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 8
		health = 8
		fertility = 7
	}
	traits = {
		just = yes
		merciful = yes
		reckless = yes
		flamboyant_schemer = yes
	}
}

NEW characters:

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500312 }
	name = "Ioannes"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101540 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	score = { gold = 0 prestige = 200 piety = 200 }
	birthdate = { year = 1000 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "80340597090107"
	attributes = {
		martial = 3
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 6
		health = 3
		fertility = 3
	}
	traits = {
		scholarly_theologian = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500313 }
	name = "Michael"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101131 }
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1018 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "04050912080515"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 8
		stewardship = 6
		health = 4
		fertility = 3
	}
	traits = {
		deceitful = yes
		scholarly_theologian = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500318 }
	name = "Nikephoros"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101079 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 20502 }
	country = C474
	religion = orthodox
	culture = greek
	birthdate = { year = 1062 month = january day = 0 }
	dna = "67298019372651"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 8
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 8
		health = 7
		fertility = 6
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500315 }
	name = "Byzantios"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =100346 }
	country = C346
	religion = orthodox
	culture = greek
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1039 month = january day = 0 }
	dna = "84067114511072"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 7
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		flamboyant_schemer = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500316 }
	name = "Theodora"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =100346 }
	country = C346
	religion = orthodox
	culture = greek
	birthdate = { year = 1049 month = january day = 0 }
	dna = "77932968328605"
	attributes = {
		martial = 3
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 7
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}

ADD in 1066_scenario_relations.inc:

Code:

    marrige = {
        primary = { type = 10 id = 500315 }
        secondary = { type = 10 id = 500316 }
        startdate = { year = 1066 month = january day = 1 }
    }

Character 500315 should be made count of Bari (C346).
Character 1740 *could* be made ruler of KAPP (change tag if so).

Solmyr · May 20, 2004

Edited my preliminary post as well.

Solmyr · May 21, 2004

Edited the above posts to correct some errors.

Solmyr · May 29, 2004

Adding Nikephoros Basiliacus:

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 500319 }
	name = "Nikephoros"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =111060 }
	country = DYRR
	religion = orthodox
	culture = greek
	birthdate = { year = 1030 month = january day = 0 }
	dna = "35427094862827"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 4
		health = 6
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		proud = yes
		knowledged_tactician = yes
	}
}

And a dynasty for him:

Code:

dynasty = {
	id = { type = 12 id = 111060 }
	name = "Basiliacus"
	province = { 334 337 338 339 343 345 346 470 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 493 494 495 497 560 561 671 678 682 683 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 730 733 737 738 739 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 763 764 947 }
}

lucaluca · Jun 3, 2004

I think there are some mistakes in the dynasties file:
we have Ducas and Dukas;
Komnenos, Comnenus and Komnenus;
Paleologus and Palaiologoi;
We should have only 1 dynasty for every of these families.

unmerged(14905) · Jun 4, 2004

A lil rework of the Byzantine Empire principalities, intented to respect the land distribution of the imperial themata of the X-XI centuries.
C_of = Count of
D_of = Duke of

* names changes
ADRI (Adrianopolis) --> Thrake
BELG (Belgrade) --> Sirmion
BUTR (Butrinto) --> Epirus or Nikopolis
DORO (Dorostotum) --> Macedonia
GALA (Galatia) --> Charsian
IKON (Ikonion) --> Anatolia
LAOD (Laodikeia) --> Thrakesion
LYKI (Lykia) --> Cibyrrhaeot
NIKA (Nikaea) --> Opsikion
NIKO (Nikomedeia) --> Optimaton or Bithynia
SINO (Sinope) --> Paphlagonia
VARN (Varna) --> Paristrion or Danube or the Danube
VIDI (Vidin) --> Bulgaria
ZARB (Zara) --> Dalmatia

* Preliminary
- removing from C_of #753 the KAPP duchy title
- removing from C_of #759 the IKON duchy title
- adding at C_of #759 the KAPP duchy title
- adding at C_of #753 the IKON duchy title

* Cancellations
AEGE --> removing C_of #744 (Abydos) as vassal
ARMI --> make C_of #761 (Tarsos) D_of ARMI too, removing C_of #736 (Lykandos) as vassal
BOSN --> cancelled and counties (#503-504) assigned to other lieges. D_of BOSN is now C_of #503 (Hum) only
DORO --> make C_of #499 (Tyrnovo) D_of DORO too, removing C_of #500 (Serdica), C_of #507 (Nikopolis) and C_of #508 (Dorostotum) as vassals
DSER --> cancelled and counties (#468-469) assigned to other lieges. D_of DSER is now C_of #502 (Rashka) only
IKON --> make C_of #749 (Dorylaion) D_of IKON too, removing C_of #751 (Paphlagonia) and C_of #753 (Ancyra) as vassals
LAOD --> removing C_of #754 (Sozopolis) as vassal
LYKI --> removing C_of #483 (Rodos) as vassal
NIKO --> removing C_of #740 (Herakleia) as vassal
SINO --> removing C_of #738 (Amisos) as vassal
STRY --> removing C_of #493 (Philippopolis) as vassal
TRAP --> removing C_of #703 (Karin) as vassal
VIDI --> make C_of #501 (Naissus) D_of VIDI too, removing C_of #506 (Vidin) as vassal

* Additions
ABYD --> adding this duchy title to C_of #744 (Abydos)
AEGE --> adding C_of #483 (Rodos) as vassal
ANTI --> adding C_of #766 (Tortosa, former BYZA direct vassal) as vassal
ARME --> adding C_of #703 (Karin) as vassal
BELG --> adding C_of #506 (Vidin), C_of #503 (Rama) and C_of #504 (Hum) as vassals
CHAL --> adding C_of #738 (Amisos) as vassal
CHER --> create this duchy title from #560-561 (from BYZA demesne)
DMES --> adding C_of #707 (Melitene, former BYZA direct vassal) and #700 (from BYZA demesne) as vassals
DORO --> adding C_of #493 (Philippopolis) as vassal
DYRR --> adding C_of #469 (Zeta) as vassal
GALA --> adding C_of #736 (Lykandos) as vassal
IKON --> adding C_of #754 (Sozopolis) as vassal
KAPP --> adding C_of #753 (Ancyra) as vassal
LAOD --> adding #746 (from BYZA demesne) to the D_of LAOD demesne
SINO --> adding C_of #751 (Paphlagonia) and C_of #740 (Herakleia) as vassal
VARN --> adding C_of #507 (Nikopolis) and C_of #508 (Dorostotum) as vassals
VIDI --> adding C_of #502 (Rashka) and C_of #500 (Serdica) as vassals
ZARB --> adding C_of #468 (Ragusa) as vassal

unmerged(14905) · Jun 4, 2004

this little rework looks like this...

C.N. · Jun 4, 2004

Mikon Orod said:
A lil rework of the Byzantine Empire principalities, intented to respect the land distribution of the imperial themata of the X-XI centuries.

It would be better if you would respect the work done based on the Croatia and Zeta/Serbia threads.

1066 Byzantine Empire/Seljuqs

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First Lieutenant

Evil Dungeon Master

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Exotic traveler

...or the ruins of himself

...or the ruins of himself

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