100% occupation of attacking warleader should yield a minimum of 40 warscore

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Proposal: 100%-occupying the warleader of the attacking alliance should have some sort of minimum warscore guarantee. (20%, say.)

This thought brought to you by being at war with Bavaria while it was trying to use Polblob as a beatstick against an Imperial minor, and beholding their complete occupation yielding the feeble sum of 7%.
 
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I'm not sure if this (40) should be the case for Coalition or league wars, but certainly for other ones.
Unless the minimum percentage was based on CB type? SO League wars would get minimum 20%, Coalitions 10% everything else higher?

Aside from this the principal works ok though.
 

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I'm against the special treatment. Small coalition members should not use their coalition aggressively, so 40% minimum warscore for occupying one province is OK, if the coalition is big they should just have used a stronger nation as coalition leader. Everyone has the CB anyway if the coalition is big enough to matter. And what should you do with 40% in League wars anyway. Not win, that's what you can do with it.
 

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I'm against the special treatment. Small coalition members should not use their coalition aggressively, so 40% minimum warscore for occupying one province is OK, if the coalition is big they should just have used a stronger nation as coalition leader. Everyone has the CB anyway if the coalition is big enough to matter. And what should you do with 40% in League wars anyway. Not win, that's what you can do with it.

That is a fair point.

Though it could stack with the ticking warscore from superiority. Is 65% enough to force religion?
 

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I think I needed to nearly 100% the League because Austria was big and had inherited overseas territories, and no ally would drop out due to the -50 or so modifier to separate peace in League wars.
 

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I think I needed to nearly 100% the League because Austria was big and had inherited overseas territories, and no ally would drop out due to the -50 or so modifier to separate peace in League wars.

Ok that's fair then.
 

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That is a fair point.

Though it could stack with the ticking warscore from superiority. Is 65% enough to force religion?

If you have BOTH the war leader 100% occupied AND won 80% of the total battles in the league war, it's hard to imagine a scenario whereby forced religion wouldn't be trivial in short order.
 

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On the other hand, in the actual thirty years war, Prague, the capital of the I guess "warleader" Bohemia / Palatinate, was occupied some 2-3 years after the war started, right? And was not besieged by Protestant/Anti-Emperor forces until 1648?
 
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On the other hand, in the actual thirty years war, Prague, the capital of the I guess "warleader" Bohemia / Palatinate, was occupied some 2-3 years after the war started, right? And was not besieged by Protestant/Anti-Emperor forces until 1648?

I don't think anybody won 4/5 of all battles fought in that war though :p.
 
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Perhaps if Paradox were to apply a very shady objective weighting system for these battles, because surely the battles Gustav Adolph won are tactically and strategically superior!