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George LeS said:
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(One thing I noticed: one of the advisors in the screenshots had a factor of Stab + 8. That must mean that the Stab scale will be a lot more than the current +/- 6.)

Not necessarily - it could be that is the amount that advisor adds to the stability (like the admin rating of the monarch in EU2).

:)
 

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OKAY! If you want some years to sit there and wait for changing policies; At least give advantage to small countries!! They should change domestic policies faster than big countries;depending on your population size..etc..


so obviously "centralized" should be the way everyone wants to go.

...centralized countries should take extra time for changing policies.. then it might make people to consider

And i saw a government investment in investments.. I recomment; each level we skip, it should make a little bit faster to change policies..
 
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I'd prefer if it were harder to change DP (or whatever it ends up being). I think you get a more interesting game and more replayability when each country has it's own distinct immutable character. It's nice to have the ability to change that character a bit, but in EUII the DPs you end up with are much more a function of your style than of your starting nation. I'd like to see changes much less often than every 10 years, and fewer events messing with DPs as well.
 

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me too prefer harder DP changing, DP sliders must be moving by events mostly, and i mean by many well balanced historical events, and not by random events at all, or at least very few times
 

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How about this?

Sliders are free to move....

but each move costs 1 stab hit and +2 revolt risk for 5-20years in all provinces... (random duration for each province, or longer time for provinces with bigger population)
so if you make a radical change, like some monarchs did historically, be prepared for the consequences...

maybe each monark could have a offset in sliders also?
a monark could be exceptionally in diplomacy, but also remove 2 in centralisation while in command...(will be recovered when monark dies)
 

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If we conceptualize slider movements as implementing reforms or policies, which are allways dependent on administration, would it be possible to have certain number of categories for different countries based on their size. For example a 1 or 2 province minors could change DP sliders every 3 or so years, but colonial spain with 60+ provinces could do it only once every 12 years, or something similar.

I also liked the CK min - max slider position which depended on current laws, something like this could also be implemented in EU3.
 

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Small contries should have benefits to the movement slider

I think that small contries should be able to move much quicker than bigger nations. then again much centralised contries should also be able to reform more than others.

There has to be a connection between the kings ability to reform and his power and the reach of his power.
 

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Didnt check to see if this was mentioned but I do hope that this or whatever system is used would be modable, for example in this case two settings:

PolicyChangeYearLimit = x #Number of years which need to elapse before you can make another policy change

PolicyChangeStabHit = y #Stability hit taken when you adjust the slider
 

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I like the 10 year idea as it is precisely as change should be slow, but it would be good if you got a 'free' change when there was a new king, depending on the ADM of the king, that is reset the 10 year clock. Also maybe when you hire these advisors?
 
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A new change with a new monarch is a good idea :)
 

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A new change with a new monarch is a good idea :)

That depends. If you get predetermined monarchs like in EU2 it isn't IMO. It would mean that some countries (Venice, Genoa in EU2) have an advantage just because they had a different kind of leadership. And having long-ruling monarchs (the later French ones for example) would be a (major?) disadvantage.
 

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How about the simplest of ideas?

An option making the player able to do changes one time per year? Pretty simple, no? If the player wants it, than sure. If he wants a more realistic approach then let him have the 10 years policy. Why complicate?
 

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Eh. I guess I'm in the minority here but I really liked the slow movement of sliders. As others have pointed, these are not only goverment iniatives but cultural markers as well, and you just dont go from a Prussian tradition of an excellent office corp to an English tradition of giving great prestige to the Navy in a decade or two. Ditto for the religous tolerance of Bohemia, or the intolerance of Spain.

The sliders force you more or less to take a long view and stick with it. To take one example, it seems to me as France you can choose several strategies: colonization (narrowminded/navy/free trade) making a sprawling continental empire with lots of "wrong" religons and ethnic groups (land narrowminded serfdom a little decentralized) or sticking with one religon and building up an economy, tech (centralization innovative free subjects.) The point of course is that you have to make the call fairly early on, and you can't easily switch even if things go badly at first. Under a more loose slider settings france could say, spend some time gobbling up colonies and then fairly easily transition into a different strategy with a decade or two. I wouldn't like that as much, theres less of a long term plan and the challenge of making it work and less of a tradeoff.
 
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That depends. If you get predetermined monarchs like in EU2 it isn't IMO. It would mean that some countries (Venice, Genoa in EU2) have an advantage just because they had a different kind of leadership. And having long-ruling monarchs (the later French ones for example) would be a (major?) disadvantage.

True, but most of the majors have decently longish kings so against each other they would remain blances. If it gives the minor runt countries an advantage and survibability, what is the problem? Even with more chances to reset DP, neither Genoa nor Venice can beat France or Austria or Turkey or even Poland. If anything with the longer periods of lower stab, it might even hurt them.